Dragons, Produced and Tickled, and Other Pleasantries

[severelysigune]

SSSusan wrote:

> > I agree with this, and welcome someone else making the remark 
besides moi.  I'm a DDM!Snaper myself, and every time I present the 
possibility that Snape could be DDM! *by virtue of loyalty or 
attachment to DD,* as opposed to by virtue of a wholehearted belief 
in DD's ideals, I seem to be greeted with a great deal of incredulity 
from the OFH!Snapers. < <


To which Kneasy wrote:

> Sure. I'm surprised that others find it less than convincing.
Snape has never shown any particular inclination towards abstract 
ideology so far as I can see, but he does react strongly to 
individuals, their powers, faults and the influences they may have. 
Someone else has said that the books are all about individuals and I 
couldn't agree more. All this guff about good and evil is just a 
socially acceptable cloak for personal motivations.

<snip>

Snape respects DD - and I doubt he gives his respect lightly.

Harry he doesn't respect at all, nor does he like him - but that's of
no consequence. 

<snip>

Snape wants only one thing, Voldy's teeth chattering in the dust as 
his decapitated cadaver bleeds out into a ditch. Then Snape'll jump 
up and down on it - lots and lotsa times. Snape reeks of a man 
seeking revenge, he has no other ambitions, no other motives - not 
now that Sirius is dead. And to secure that revenge he'll play any 
part that may be necessary.
Some may see this as an OFH type motivation. Not really. Snape doesn't
expect to profit in any way; indeed he'd probably sacrifice his own 
life if it ensured Voldy's demise  - and it probably will turn out 
that way.
Betcha. <


Sigune pipes up:

I'm not sure I have that much to add to this, but I did want to say 
that I wholeheartedly agree. I think it would be hard to explain why 
Snape remained at Hogwarts once Voldemort was out of the picture, if 
he had only turned to Dumbledore to save his butt. The Order members 
certainly got on with their lives, and did not need to reside at 
Hogwarts in order to be stand-by.

There is a kind of attachment between Dumbledore and Snape, or he 
would not take Dumbledore's actions quite so personally (PoA -
paraphrasing: "Surely you have not forgotten that he once tried to 
kill *me*?"). The fact that so proud and vain a man as Snape appears 
in canon allows himself to be ordered around by Dumbledore (and 
without such compelling arguments as the Cruciatus Curse) is telling 
enough for me. I have always interpreted the two of them as a Master 
and his Disciple - that is the impression I got from canon. 
Dumbledore relies so heavily on him that he must have some kind of 
special status.

The thing that keeps puzzling me is that Snape, who still bears 
schoolboy grudges at the age of nearly forty, must at some point have 
found it in himself to get over the fact that Dumbledore did not act 
seriously against the Marauders and even swore him to secrecy about 
the presence of a werewolf at Hogwarts. I'd like to know what made 
him do that, in view of his super-sensitivity to anything that 
relates to himself.

In an earlier post, Kneasy remarked on the fact that Dumbledore is a 
pragmatist. I am quite convinced that pragmatism is one of the 
reasons why he keeps/kept Snape close. Snape is prepared to do 
*anything* in order to achieve his goal of bringing Voldemort down, 
even things any other person would shudder at. The longer I think 
about it, the more sense Dumbledore's death makes; and I don't think 
anyone else could have managed the kill.

:grins:
Yes, this is what they call a slightly glorified 'me too' post :D...

Yours not so severly,
Sigune