D.O.P.E.

Talisman talisman22457 at talisman22457.yahoo.invalid
Sun Jul 24 21:37:01 UTC 2005


Said Neil, "You must understand us
Tis the mods who have taken a stand thus,
Nesbit, John, Cath, Pen, and Kelly;
Will turn me to jelly!"
Quod Talisman: "Sic Semper Tyrranus!"

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Haven't read absolutely all the posts, my 21-year-old is visiting so 
we're sharing the cable.

If anyone has posted this idea before, by all means let me know. 
Kindred spirits are a rare find and I wouldn't want to miss one.

I agree with all those who put Rowling's boggart comments together 
with the text and believe DD is experiencing his worst memories in 
the cave.  (Guilty!DD, indeed.)

Attentive readers might also recall that I have been calling the 
Prophesies nothing more than DD's manipulative devices, for years. 
(Circa 2003. Really almost did a TBAY back in the day called "DD's 
Bait Shop"--he's got so much of it.)

I'll go a step further, now.

Given the evidence contra, I'll retract the idea that Snape had 
turned before the eavesdropping event.

Nonetheless, Trelawney's evidence demonstrates that she *had* 
stopped channeling the prophesy and *had* come to, in order to see 
Snape standing there with Aberforth in tow, and to get the 
impression that Snape had been eavesdropping.

The answer for me now is that DD *causes* Trelawney to have her 
prophecies.  He didn't go to the Hog's Head to be accommodating.  As 
we saw with TR, he would ordinarily conduct job interviews in his 
office at Hogwarts.

He went to the Hog's Head knowing that Snape (or at least some LV 
spy) would tail him.  He knew what position Trelawney sought, and 
decided to use the occasion to plant the half prophesy in a manner 
that would persuade LV that it was authentic intelligence.

DD turned it off--and bro/OoP member Aberforth stepped up to oust 
the spy-- at the half way point, because this was the best way to 
make the prophesy the ultimate bait.

With the half info Lv will seek the usurper that he's been fearing 
(for every evil overlord's got one) but,  if his initial attempts to 
kill are thwarted, he want to hear it all.  So, there is bait to 
spare.

I think we are all agreed that knowing the second half of the 
prophecy doesn't give LV anything.  We won't belabor that.  It is 
the not-knowing that draws LV.  That's the only reason to keep that 
half secret.

What the second half of the Prophesy does do is convince Harry he's 
The One.  That's what it's meant to do.  That's why DD set it up 
that way.


(By the way, in addition to the stuff I wrote earlier about JKR's 
lame explanation, I'll add that ALL of the reasons that Harry wants 
to kill LV do stem from the prophecy--because LV's instigating 
actions do.)

So, DD is the author of the Prophesy; by whatever means, he can make 
it come out of Trelwney's mouth.  He turned it off where he wanted 
Snape's info to end, and then finished it (for use with Harry) after 
Snape had been escorted out.

This comports completely with DD planting the 2nd prophecy through 
Trelawney on the eve of the finalization of his scheme to send 
Wormtail back for LV.

Regarding the Chosen One, it's interesting that both options were 
OoP babies.  Moreover, I don't think DD's belief that Harry would 
make a better Chosen One than Neville (per JKR's site) was something 
that he came to after Harry arrived at Hogwarts.

I think it was up front--whether by some magical assessment, or 
simply by considering parentage.

Therefore, I think he pulled some strings to *help* LV see it that 
way, too.  DD had some plan to *create* Weapon!Harry (as I've 
speculated before--do you recall, Anne?) out of what was to be a 
failed attempt on his life.

DD arranged GH, just as he has arranged every other meeting between 
Harry and LV.

Did things go worse than planned?  Ah, well. 

Sure Harry's blood is precious.  A huge price has been paid for this 
particular *blend.*

Have another cup of green stuff Guilty!DD.

Here, specifically:
Dumbledore's Original Prophesies' Engineer: D.O.P.E.

Talisman, noticing that DD assures Draco that deaths can be faked, 
and people can be successfully hidden from LV and the DEs.

Not quite what he told Harry in OoP.
  
And not, alas, the Potters.  




























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