[the_old_crowd] Re: What's in a Patronus?

silmariel silmariel at a_silmariel.yahoo.invalid
Wed Sep 21 09:18:40 UTC 2005


Anne:
> > It would go a little easier if you'd cite chapters, though. <_<
>
Ewe2:
> O_o

Silmariel:

You know when you've got the feeling you are forgetting something important? 
*cough*

(Bloomsbury)

2) Spinner's End

5) An excess of Phlegm, Tonks appears briefly near the beginning, refuses an 
invitation to see Remus

7) Slug Club: there is a Fleur commentary on Tonks while they still are in the 
Burrows - 126

8) Snape Victorious, Tonks&Snape scene 

12) Silver and Opals, 232, after Mundungus 

16) A very frosty Christmas -313: Lupin tells what he's been doing -318: Fleur 
says Tonks is clumsy, then Molly asks Lupin if she has seen her lately 
(answer no), and we learn she is to be alone in Christmas (I've just noticed 
this one) instead of with her family.

21) The unknowable room - 435 (near end of chapter)

29) The Phoenix lament

Anne:
> > Why would Narcissa!Tonks rescue Harry from the Hogwarts Express,
> > though? Even if she was anti-Voldemort, she still can't like Harry --
> > what would it hurt if he stewed in his own juices partway back to
> > London?  Was she just keeping her cover?

Well, I cheered when Draco broke Harry's nose, it was time, but it would be 
quite of a giveaway to fail in your Auror's tasks the first day, and Snape 
marked Harry as to be left alone on Voldie's orders in ch 2. The logic thing 
is to take at least the minimun care.

Ewe2:
> If we consider Narcissa!Tonks motives for her subterfuge, and the
> possibility that Snape and/or DD is actively involved, it may well be a
> matter of ensuring Harry isn't distracted from the essential goal: to be
> the weapon against Voldemort. I don't think they trust Harry to be quiet if
> he knew either.

It's the same motive Lily had, so it is quite strong. If she is go into 
action, sure having a death threat on her son is a valid trigger, and though 
she doesn't have to know the real reason Harry is to be let alone, it's also 
clear Harry gets observed by both sides so better to remain peripherical to 
him. Erm I agree, I wouldn't trust him with this particular secret. 

> On the other hand, she is a mother. It's not a big stretch if you're going
> that far to protect your son who has no idea what he's involved in, to at
> least give a hand to another who lost his parents to your previous master.

Yes, you don't have to like the kid to give him kid treatment, and the orphan 
factor counts, I wouldn't have left him in the train, even I have admitted I 
cheered. Tonks isn't specially caring or loving with Harry in this book, my 
impression of the rescue was that it was a bit impersonal, as in the 
Mundungus incident, she just get sure Harry calms down and leaves asap. She 
treats him correctly, but not in a particular friendly way.

Silmariel





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