Who knew that Peter was the Secret Keeper? (Was: After all this time...)

mooseming josturgess at mooseming.yahoo.invalid
Tue Mar 7 19:57:04 UTC 2006


--- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Mooseming: 
> > Agreed it all points to a spy in LV's ranks. Admittedly here I 
> > struggle with the concept that the spy could remain ignorant of 
> > Wormtail's identity and warn Lily and James in person (the 
`Snape 
> > warned James but James was "too arrogant to believe (he) might 
be 
> > mistaken in Black"' theory I'm rather fond of!). At this point I 
> > have to fall back on the idea that not only did Wormtail tell LV 
by 
> > sending him a note but that LV left it hanging around and Snape 
was 
> > able to read it even though it wasn`t meant for him

(which is 
why 
> > Moody torched Harry's note btw). Not the neatest of plotting and 
> > rather too much use of the note approach but will suffice at a 
push!
> 
> Kathy W:
> (Be kind, I'm in over my head here.)
> But, we don't know that Snape warned Lily and James in person. 

No indeed we don't or anything like! Truth is I simply *like* the 
idea.....

He 
> could have told DD who tried to get Lily and James to change SK. 
When 
> they didn't (only they did) Snape felt his news was rejected.

Yees but wouldn't that mean Snape thought Sirius was the mole before 
GH and why would he have thought that????

<snip>
> 
> His being at GH...if he was...could have been because LV took 
Peter 
> and Severus with him. 

Yup. This has to be a strong contender although if he took Snape and 
Peter then Snape knows Peter is the mole which he doesn't admit to 
in POA (although that's a whole other kettle of kippers....)

> 
> Now, how does Sirius know so much when he gets out of Azkaban, but 
he 
> doesn't know Snape was a DE?

Yeah, as I said in my reply to Talisman the what is said, passed on 
etc from inside Azkaban is a 'weak' link. Snape went to DD on LV's 
oders (allegedly) if every DE knew this it doesn't add up to much of 
a cover for an inside man and if every DE didn't know this then 
surely Snape would be discussed as a traitor. It's possible to argue 
that Snape was such small fry no one really gave a flipitty but they 
have an awful long time to pass in Azkaban even Snape might interest 
them!!!!


Then again Sirius might be aware that Snape is acting the spy for DD 
and therefore does know his past DE history, although you'd think 
Sirius would mention this during one of their little spats wouldn't 
you! The closest he comes is to refer to Snape as 'reformed' when 
they are arguing about Harry's occlumency lessons during Christmas 
at Grimmauld Place, perhaps Harry's presence during this argument 
stops him short of the full disclosure?

Regards
Jo







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