[the_old_crowd] Marauders/End/Fandoms/TWT&Kirk

[silmariel]

ewe2:
> Now imagine if an author had that kind of power to steer audiences
> around...in a sense this kind of feedback loop already exists, as
> myth. 

Excuse me, but I think I don't understand. What are you saying? That myth 
changes the population (or the other way around) or that our modern myths 
tend to make hero-worshipped authors able to gather 'prisoner audience'? - 
Matrix - I was just flippant that people though it was a new concept and 
praised the film as if they'd had a mystic experience.

>Sooner or later someone will own the archetypes...

Sooner or later someone will fight for owning them, I agree - with a lot of 
surprise, I must add, I thought my perception in the question was very 
apocaliptic. It is very ominous but each year gives me more reason to think 
everything that could be media-profited is to be nicely secluded under a few 
hands.

Unless I've misundertood you completely.

> Can post-modernist fairytales really ring true? Slapping a "bad"
> ending on things is just as unsatisfying.

You have used the doomed word. Guess what, I don't have idea of what the 
standard meaning of postmodernism is. Subverting, deconstructing, 
untraditional changes, or just from some time period?

And the wikipedia isn't helping, it gives too much definitions some 
contradicting the others (usual, as they are from different authors).

For I know some tales with good ending and fairly reasonable, but I don't have 
a clue if they fit the pattern asked: Neverending Story, Labyrinth, Dark 
Cristal.

I don't think bad endings per se are at fault, as a child I found the little 
mermaid's sad but beautiful in a way that the happy ending version just 
couldn't be. It was happy, but not thought-provoking. I guess what isn't fair 
is making all endings bad endings. I remember most of fairytales ended fine, 
some ended really bad.

HP feels very real, imo, and that's why I think the books walk over a very 
fine line, fairytales do not stress so much the coming of age point, and when 
you mix genres... it's your risk, and a high one.

Silmariel