[the_old_crowd] Marauders/End/Fandoms/TWT&Kirk

[ewe2]

On 5/19/06, silmariel <silmariel at ...> wrote:
> ewe2:
> > Now imagine if an author had that kind of power to steer audiences
> > around...in a sense this kind of feedback loop already exists, as
> > myth.
>
> Excuse me, but I think I don't understand. What are you saying? That myth
> changes the population (or the other way around) or that our modern myths
> tend to make hero-worshipped authors able to gather 'prisoner audience'? -
> Matrix - I was just flippant that people though it was a new concept and
> praised the film as if they'd had a mystic experience.

Myth, as I understand it, is a story passed on from author to author,
each with their own touches or angles. In this sense, the audience
cannot "edit" the story, it's being "edited" for them, the good edits
(according to cultural taste) survive, the bad do not. Do myths
"change" their audiences? There are better authorities than I on this
list to argue this point. Not all myths are on the page or screen.

> >Sooner or later someone will own the archetypes...
>
> Sooner or later someone will fight for owning them, I agree - with a lot of
> surprise, I must add, I thought my perception in the question was very
> apocaliptic. It is very ominous but each year gives me more reason to think
> everything that could be media-profited is to be nicely secluded under a few
> hands.
>
> Unless I've misundertood you completely.

No, that is precisely what I meant. Apart from myth, there are very
few original stories. Once their intellectual property is owned, where
do you go from there?

> > Can post-modernist fairytales really ring true? Slapping a "bad"
> > ending on things is just as unsatisfying.
>
> You have used the doomed word. Guess what, I don't have idea of what the
> standard meaning of postmodernism is. Subverting, deconstructing,
> untraditional changes, or just from some time period?

Some claim that "reality" requires bad endings or no endings at all.
Culturally, we're predisposed to good endings or at least endings that
are definitive.

> And the wikipedia isn't helping, it gives too much definitions some
> contradicting the others (usual, as they are from different authors).

This is called keeping your tenure.



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