Conflicts, cheats and credibility

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Dung:
> > And here's a job for a holesmith:
> > If Hermione was able to (effectively) side-along apparate Yaxley 
to Grimmauld Place, into the Fidelius Charm, why couldn't Snape side-
> > along with a gang of DEs? Apparition doesn't require speaking, so 
the tongue-tying hex wouldn't have stopped him. 
> > 
> > Grumble grumble grumble.

Kneasy:
> Ah.
> This one's covered.
> Theoretically.
> See the last FAQ on Jo's site.
> When the SK dies the secret is frozen, restricted to those that 
already
> know it. And they can't divulge it to anyone new, so Snape shouldn't
> be able to ferry DEs into the joint willy-nilly.

Dung:
JKR's site:
"When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put 
it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at 
the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will 
continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else."

Kneasy:
> Which sort of contradicts DH which went wittering on about everybody
> who knows the secret on the death of the SK becomes in effect a new 
> Secret Keeper who can pass it on to whoever they wish, or even by
> misadventure, which is what happened with Hermione and Yaxley - 
> "Since DD died we're all Secret Keepers."
> Oops!
> Now which version did I misunderstand?

Dung:
It's not a contradiction as such, (I'm being generous), on her site 
she didn't add in the final clause, that all of those people can now 
talk about the secret freely to whomever they like. That's why the 
order put the tongue-tying hex on GP, so that if Snape turned up and 
got hit by it he still wouldn't be able to reveal the secret to the 
DEs.

Wouldn't have stopped him telling them before going there, though. 
And even once his tongue was tied he should have been able to 
apparate the DEs in.

Tim:
How sure are we that one doesn't have to say where one is going when
apparating? Perhaps the hex prevents him doing that. In HBP chapter 
18 they don't seem to be speaking:
<snip>
But perhaps part of fixing one's mind is to speak the destination? A 
bit lame, sorry.

Dung:
Not convinced, I'm afraid. Perhaps you're thinking of floo powder, 
where you have to state your destination clearly. There's never been 
any mention of having to speak when apparating, and I don't believe 
anyone ever has.

Anne:
> For the past 24 hours or so, I've had the sneaking feeling that she
did change significant things from the original plan for this book.
> Perhaps she can claim she stuck to her plan, because Harry was
always going to allow LV to AK him, but...
>
> What I really need is a reread, with a notebook to hand. Not sure
when that will happen, though. And, though I do care about what
happened, I care so much more about whether it makes sense.
>

Dung:
Yes, absolutely. I really hope some hard-core fans are granted an 
interview and give her a damn good grilling.