Complaining to Yah / Sort Order

Steve bboyminn at bboyminn.yahoo.invalid
Sun Mar 27 07:23:23 UTC 2005


--- In HPFGU-Feedback at yahoogroups.com, "Kelley" <kelleythompson at g...>
wrote:

> 
> > But I think someone on the OT chatter was right when he/she 
> > commented that they want the most recent messages to be on top.
> > It is hard to make my brain work backwards. :)

> 
> Heh, you mean that Yahoo wants them that way?  It seems they do, yes, 
> but it'd sure be nice to let the groups and/or individuals choose 
> their own settings for stuff like that, sigh.
>  
> 
> http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/groups/cgi_alpha
> 
> 
> --Kelley

bboyminn:

Here was a point I made in another post about the Sort Order (newest
at the top).

When I come to the group, I don't want to start and the latest
message, I want to pick up where I left off, which given the volume in
the main group, is somewhere in the past, then mover forward from
their. This 'top down' sorting is counter intuitive to reading like that. 

Certainly your in a group with a more centered/singular discussion
topic, that has very few posts per day, the top down might be OK.
Actually that's how I prefer to sort my email. But in a high volume
group with many many related but separate subject going on at one
time, the 'newest on top' seem counter intuitive.

I posted a list of the key things that I think need to be changed. May
be we could come up with a nice concise list of Appearance and Feature
Changes that we would like to see, then get the whole group to send it
to Yahoo. 

When Yahoo was the only game in town, it was an OK place. In addition,
there are some nice aspect to it. But it is rapidly becoming old and
clumbsy as new alternate services appear on the horizon. And, if it
wasn't for loosing the complete threaded archive of 125,000 posts of
wit and wisdom, I think I would be seriously tempted to look for
another group host service. What would be perfect is if the new
service could transfer the entire contents of the old group into the new.

For those who want to explore alternatives, here are some programs
that are much like the old Usenet Newsgroup Readers, but they are
custom made for Yahoo groups. I haven't checked them out in detail,
but they look like they have potential. It seems as if you can sort by
any parameter, and search the archives for post, etc...

If anyone has direct experience with these programs I would be great
to get some feedback on them.

http://pgoffline.com/

Also-
http://www.netwu.com/yahoobin/
http://www.groupfetch.com/


Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn








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