Calling the argument ridiculous, moved from MAIN

[dumbledore11214]

Carol:
<SNIP>
As far as I'm concerned, calling my post ridiculous doesn't
*challenge* my ideas. It insults *me.* By all means, challenge my
argument by presenting rational counterarguments and counter my canon
with counterexamples. By all means state that you disagree with me and
why (that is, make clear which specific point you disagree with). But
please don't resort to ad hominem tactics, especially since you're a
List Elf and need to set an example for other posters.


Alla:

We disagree on that - that calling argument ridiculous  is ad hominem 
tactic.
Actually, no strike that – it may insult you, but I believe that 
there 
should be a balance between what list member may consider offensive 
and 
what should be considered offensive. There were times where I was 
insulted by some posts and I still thought that they were perfectly 
within rules. I would NEVER say that because I was insulted, this was 
actually insulting as in violating the rules. 

I cannot predict which word you will take offensively and vice versa. 
I do think it is ridiculous if every time one takes offense at the 
word it should not be used anymore. I think there are should be some 
common grounds - what many people will consider offensive.

Like for example I CAN predict that being called idiotic, even if the 
argument can cause offense, sure.


I AM sorry that it insulted you. I am not sorry for using that word 
and 
will use the word as relates to argument I am challenging as I see 
fit.

I am trying to be careful with the words, as I said I do not do that 
often, but TRUST ME, I struggled to find the word . 

> Carol, apologizing for the public response but since Alla posted 
here,
> I thought I'd respond here in hopes of getting a clarification on 
what
> constitutes an acceptable response from other List Elves
>


Alla:

If list elf is being rude list elf should get an owler or howler just 
as any list member, who is not a list elf.