New Deathly Hallows trailer
Geoff
geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com
Thu Jul 22 21:08:48 UTC 2010
--- In HPFGU-Movie at yahoogroups.com, "Child Of Midian" <md at ...> wrote:
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> Behalf Of Geoff
Geoff:
> > Depends on what you consider to be specifics.
> > In the book, the last confrontation between Harry and Voldemort
> > takes place in the Great Hall. The two protagonists are described
> > as circling round each other the whole time, Harry watching very
> > carefully for evidence that Voldemort is about to cast the spell.
> > Nowhere do they come into physical contact. If they were to, would
> > Voldemort waste his time asking Harry "Why do you live?" rather
> > than complete the task he has been trying to do for sixteen years -
> > eliminate his nemesis?
md:
> So they made it "look" one way for the film rather than step-by-step from
> the pages of the book and that changes the storyline? How? First of all,
> let's focus on what a storyline is, in terms of if Harry marries Hermione at
> the end, that's changing it, if people live that die in the book, that's
> altering the storyline, if they move a scene from the great hall to outside
> the clock tower, that's visuals and in no way, shape or form changes the
> storyline.
Geoff:
> > Also, why is this apparently taking place on the Astronomy Tower?
md:
> More visually interesting in a visual medium like, let's say, film
Geoff (later):
I think it's more than "look". The scenes in the trailer include subtleties
which give a different impression to the book. I have commented already
but to enlarge a little further: I am assuming that the trailer scene with
Voldemort gripping Harry is from the last confrontation. Voldemort thinks
that he has killed Harry and his minions are bent taking over Hogwarts and
crushing any remaining resistance when the Boy-who-has-apparently-
been-finished-off-by-Voldemort reappears out of nowhere - alive.
Voldemort is actually put onto the back foot by this and he is obviously
beginning to psych himself up to have another go at Harry and prove that
he can kill him, having failed miserably in PS and GOF. Harry certainly doesn't
seem to be intending to let to let himself be grabbed because that might put
Voldemort in the position of being able to have cast another spell with Harry
unable to retaliate, hence the continual circling while Harry knocks out each of
Voldemort's props, one by one.
Also, why should Voldemort and Harry be, presumably, alone in this standoff
on the Tower? Harry reappears in the midst of the battle in the Hall to
prevent Voldemort killing Molly and several others in his fury following
Bellatrix's death.... and the Hall is full of people.
Geoff:
> > In the book again, although some damage detailed - the main
> > staircase is mentioned - the Hall is sufficiently intact for furniture
> > to be there and we have to wait for the sunrise to come over the
> > window sill... which to me is tinkering.
md:
> I remember an entire wall coming down and opening up to the outside during
> the giant attack. Also, the Clock Tower is strictly a movie invention since
> film-three and not Rowlings at all, so anything there is a film modification
> but to logistics, not storyline.
Geoff:
> > In other areas, someone has already commented on the guy
> > stopping the train, which strikes me personally as unnecessary
> > such as the five minutes or so of film time wasted over the attack
> > on the Burrow and the station cafeteria scene in HBP.
> > But we must wait and see.....
md:
> Well, I agree the burrow battle was pointless and only there because they
> felt the film was moving too slow, and I agree it sucked and that was
> changing the storyline because something happens that never happens in the
> books.
Geoff:
Possibly, but some stuff was left out possibly because of the two pointless
scenes I have mentioned.
We have had several instances in the films where extra bits and pieces have
been inserted and, in return, other things omitted, sometimes vital to
understanding the story line.
BTW, changing the subject, you ought to preface each of your replies with your
name. Because you didn't in this post and did not leave any spaces after my bit,
the entire post appears to be attributed to me and even I had difficulty at first
glance picking out where my remarks ended and your replies began.....
In addition, you are not replying on my behalf as your heading implies. You
are responding on your own behalf.
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