[HPFGU-OTChatter] more pronounciation

[Starling]

Naama wrote:
***BTW, the Hebrew "ch" sound is quite different from the German "ch", 
which I, for one, cannot pronounce. ***

::tests out the "ch" sounds as apartments knock on the door to ask why I'm hacking::
To my ear, they are very close.  In any case, I was the first person in my class, way back in middle school, to get the German "ch" sound.  This is thanks to my childhood friend Sara and her mother, who made me learn to pronounce "challah" correctly before I could have any.  Sara, therefore, is responsible my scant Hebrew vocabulary (around 5 words <g>)...oh well.  She tried, give the girl much credit.
There's minute differences, but that general sort of "hack" (which, imo, is why German has such an unfair reputation as a harsh language) exists in a lot of languages -- "Hvala", the Croatian word for "thank you", has that same sound, and had I not already been used to it already I probably never would have gotten around that pronounciation. 

But then, we English-speakers get our own back -- I love listening to ESLers trying to pronounce the "th" sound.  (Random tidbit:  that exists only in english and islandic)

On the flip side -- if we could pronounce everything properly, than we wouldn't have any nifty accents in each other's languages! <g>

Abbie, who likes to flatter herself that she can sound like a native German speaker but knows she still sounds like an american

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: naama_gat at hotmail.com 
  To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, 08 May, 2001 9:01 AM
  Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: The Dark is Rising and Welsh Pronunciations.


  --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Amy Z" <aiz24 at h...> wrote:

  <Welsh stuff snipped>
  > 
  > Like no one besides Germans and Jews being able to pronounce 
  the "ch" 
  > in Chanukah, challah, freundlich, etc.?  Aah, it's a matter of 
  > training.  Everyone can get it sooner or later.
  > 

  No way. Not all Jews can pronounce the "ch" sound. At least, not 
  American Jews. I know American Jews who live in Israel for twenty 
  years and more, and still say Hanukah, hallah, etc. It's a very hard 
  sound for English speakers to pronounce, it seems. 

  BTW, the Hebrew "ch" sound is quite different from the German "ch", 
  which I, for one, cannot pronounce. 

  Naama, who learned to growl in French quite early on..



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