The war about The War of the Roses

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 9 10:10:40 UTC 2008


> Carol earlier:
> > 
> > > White is associated with York: Richard's symbol was a white boar
> for Eboracum, the Latin name for York (a pun on "bor"/"boar"); 
> 
> Catlady: 
> > The white boar was Richard's personal badge, right? Why did he 
have
> a personal badge punning on York when he personally was Gloucester?
> 
> Carol responds:
> Both his older brother Edward IV and their father, also named 
Richard,
> had been dukes of York. Richard's badge shows his loyalty to the 
House
> of York, as does his motton, "Loyaultie me lie" (loyalty binds me).

a_svirn:
In fact, no one knows for sure why he chose the boar badge. 
The "Eboracum" is only one of the explanations. As for his so called 
motto, he only used it only once, as far as we know, and in the 
circumstances that make it sound singularly cynical – when he 
effectively arrested his own sovereign in Stony Stratford and 
disbanded his household. On his official Order of the Garter plate he 
used another motto to go with the Boar emblem. 






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