Testing, 1,2,3 and Charisma - what is it?

[kempermentor]

> Tonks:
> What do other people think Charisma is? What do you see in a person 
> that has it? Have you even knowm a woman who has it? What does that 
> look like in a woman? I only see men who have it, so I suspect part 
> of it has to do with sex appeal... 
> but how would a woman develop it? And if part of it is 
> sexual, how would a women do that without coming off like a tramp? 

Kemper now:
I know it was mentioned earlier that sex appeal may play a role in
charisma, but I disagree.  Bill has sex appeal (I hear),  Obama
doesn't.  Both seem similarly charismatic.  So developing sex appeal
won't make you any more charismatic than you already are, though it
might help out in other areas of your private life :)

Carol mentioned Jackie O and Princess Di upthread, questioning whether
or not they have beauty or charisma.  I think they were made into
icons before their personalities were publicly known.  

I think Eva Peron must have possessed some charisma, energizing labor
parties and advancing suffrage.  She also seems attractive which may
or may not play a role.  Pakistan's Benazir Bhutto also seemed
charismatic (I wept when she was assassinated.)  She too seemed
attractive in her early years... not to say that her later years were
hideous. Someone who was not hot yet probably possessed a charisma was
Mother Teresa.  Another not hot woman was Margaret Thatcher, who, to
me, seems to lack charisma... but that might be because I'm American.

As I was thinking about the women above, what I think comes across
with all of them and with their male counterparts, is their passion
for life or for a cause that inspires or elates people into action
even if it's brief.


> Tonks:
> I 
> need a little help with this. I want to cultivate some charisma. I 
> am sure that one can learn it to some extent, while for many it may 
> come naturally. 

Kemper now:
You state already having a magnetism for people who want to share
their emotions, so I would encourage you to learn what it is about you
that elicits that in others and hone it.  If you are thinking you
don't know what it is, then start by asking others.  But I suspect
some part of you knows the answer.


> Tonks: 
> What is the mindset of a person with charisma? 

Kemper now:
Mindset... it would be curious to see the Myers Brigg of those already
discussed.  While extroversion seems like a given, I don't imagine
Mother Teresa as naturally extroverted (I could be wrong).  I know a
woman who presents as extroverted but it's because she was raised by
an extrovert.  Her preferred state is introversion.

Tonks:
> I think 'who' we project to others comes from how we think.. 

Kemper now:
I agree, but I also think it works in reverse; people project onto us
who they think we are... at times.

Kemper