Winky & probably typo

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No: HPFGUIDX 24129

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Bente13 at p... wrote:
> I have two questions, which probably (as they're pretty obvious) 
have 
> been debated to death already, but I'm new here, so bear with 
me if 
> you can. 
> 
> First, in GoF, after Dumbledore has blasted the fake Moody 
from 
> outside the door and the latter is lying unconscious on the floor 
> of 'his' office, Dumbledore sends Minerva McGonagall to fetch 
> Snuffles from the pumpkin patch and Snape to the dungeon to 
get some 
> Veritaserum and then to the kitchen to fetch Winky the house 
elf. 
> How, if the fake Moody still looks like Moody, does Dumbledore 
know 
> that there's a connection to Winky? 

Dumbledore tells Harry, "The real Moody would not have 
removed you from my sight after what happened tonight. The 
moment he took you, I knew -- and I followed."  I took this to 
mean that, while Dumbledore may not have known exactly who 
the fake Moody really was, he did know that it was not the real 
'Mad-Eye' Moody. As to the connection with Winky, I'm thinking he 
may have been putting pieces of the puzzle together over time 
(such as Barty Crouch Sr.'s odd behaviour, and then Harry's 
report of Sr. showing up, disoriented and confused, on Hogwarts 
grounds) and had a strong suspicion who the 'fake' Moody might 
be.
> 
> Secondly, a little later Dumbledore tells Sirius and Snape that 
'time 
> is short, and unless the few of us who know the truth do not 
stand 
> united, there is no hope for any of us.' Isn't this the opposite of 
> what he ought to be saying? 'Unless we stand united there's 
no hope 
> for any of us', or alternatively, 'If we do not stand united there's 
> not hope for any of us'. English is not my native language, so I 
> suppose I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
> 

Actually, you got it right the second time around; Dumbledore 
says "... unless the few of us who know the truth stand united, 
there is no hope for any of us."