Dissaparation, Invisibility cloak, Speculation vs Fanfic

Liquidfire liquidfire at mindgate.net
Tue Dec 11 17:33:17 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 31282

pandera wrote:
> I was just thinking about the night that Harry's parents got killed. 
> Would it not have been possible that Lily could have disaparated 
> and that way saved both her and Harry. She knew who was 
> coming through the door and could have had enough time to do 
> it. Have you guys talked about this yet?

I don't know about the first 30,000 posts, but here's my two cents anyway.
I don't think you can disapparate with another person, even if the person
in question is small enough to hide inside your shirt.  I always thought of
apparation as an "I, me, myself" kind of spell, the type that bears no
direct advantage to others, just yourself.  Now where was I?  I don't think
Lily could have disapparited with baby Harry, but even if she could, it
might have been only a matter of time before LV catches up to her.

The fact remains that she could have done a hundred things to fight or
escape LV, but in the end, she got AK'ed.


Mahoney wrote:
>I was wondering...why did James Potter leave the invisibility cloak 
w/ Dumbledore before he died?  Was it purposeful ~ the danger to 
himself was so great that he wanted it some place safe, i.e., w/ 
Dumbledore?  Or perhaps happenstance?

>I guess I had this little tiny blip of a 'could be' strike me ~ could 
be that Dumbledore (or, hmm, maybe even a co-hort) was doing 
something that required being able to move about unnoticed, and 
borrowed the cloak for that purpose; before the cloak was returned, 
James died, 'leaving' the cloak in Dumbledore's possession.

It could be that James wanted to make sure that Harry gets the cloak safe
and sound.  In that light, who else but Dumbledore?  I highly doubt it that
Dumbledore would need the cloak for any purpose, as he has implicitly
stated that he "doesn't need a cloak to be invisible" (SS).  With all that
talk about Dumbledore possibly being an Animagus... (a bee, no less!  How
literal, a la Remus "Lupin" and "Sirius" Black, can you get?)


Mahoney wrote on:
>And also, Snape *did* pointedly thank Harry for leaving the cloak at 
the foot of the willow, in PoA, yes?  I wonder how he knew it was 
Harry's?  Or, er, maybe he didn't address Harry in particular.  
(Ack ~ memory!  Come back!)  Never mind, if I'm just misremembering.

No, you got it correct, I did a quick check.  That's rather interesting, if
Snape knows about Harry and the cloak.  I'm pretty sure Dumbledore wouldn't
spread the word among the professors that Harry has an invisibility cloak.
Filch for one would make sure that he confiscate it.  So how come Snape
knows?  


Gwen wrote (and she wrote well):
>For those of you who can speculate and theorize without turning to the
actual writing of fanfiction, how is it that you keep track of all the
interwoven details to keep things straight? How do you determine your handle
on the characters and how they'd react to the kinds of questions we at HP4GU
attempt to answer? How do you keep your speculative colourization from
tinting the limited black-and-white print of the books? Where do you decide
to cut off your horizons and edges and place your vanishing points so that
you keep everything in perspective without creating a canvas that is either
too widely or too narrowly focused?


You go, girl!  Good argument.  Unfortunately, I'm with Steve and the rest
of tha let's-keep-it-pure group.  

You have a point in stating that bit about perspective and focus.  However,
you fail to note that when you make a fanfic, you interweave many theories
together to form a story.  In this e-group, every post has a specific
topic.  Now I must admit, I'm rather stunned that I get like 70+ e-mails a
day from this group (more on weekends).  I simply delete topics I don't
feel like reading and read what I want to read.  I'm focused that way.

Yes, I speculate a lot about Harry Potter in my head (I blame JK Rowlings
for this, if she'd just release Book 5 NOW!).  With all the fodder I'm
getting, it's rather hard not to.  I guess, in a way, I'm doing a lot of
fanfiction in my head.  But I still rather keep it in my head.  Why?  For
me at least, writing down something (in the form of fanfic) gives it a
sense of permanence.  I can't have that.  My speculations have to remain
speculations.  I'd rather not 'strongly' believe one school of thought over
another.  If I do fanfiction, I might believe in it so much that I might
actually prefer it to the real thing.  Again, that's just me.

So, to finally answer your questions, yes, it's possible to keep everything
in perspective without having to 'assemble' a perspective, in the form of
fanfic.  It simply by digesting whet you want, when you want.

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