Question about the fact L.V. and Harry's wands are brothers?

rachelrenee1 rachelrenee1 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 27 17:04:55 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 32242

> animalsbaby_1999 wrote:

<snip>

I know that in
> > CoS Dumbledore and Harry talk about what happened to him in the
> > Chamber w/ Tom Riddle, and Dumbledore does state, "Very few people
> > know that LV was once called TR" (CoS page 329 hardback US 
edition)
> > I guess I'm just trying to find out who knew and if Dumbledore 
knows
> > that then, why doesn't he bring it up that if the two wands were 
to
> > meet (which they do in GoF) what would happen and how does 
Ollivander
> > know about the two wands, I began to think, while reading CoS 
again
> > if when LV went after baby Harry he left behind the wand, but 
then how
> > could he have had it when he goes after Harry in GoF.  


Then Katze replied:
> 
> Ollivander tells Harry that his wand has a brother in SS/PS, so he
> must've known before that. Ollivander talks about different things 
he
> uses to make the wands (especially when looking at Fleur's wand in 
GoF),
> so my guess is that Ollivander actually made the wands who contain
> Fawkes' tail feathers, and was present then the feathers were 
given. 
> Ollivander also knew that Riddle bought the first wand, and when 
Harry
> bought his, Ollivander let Dumbledore know. Now...if you're 
wondering
> how Ollivander knew that TR is the same as V, I'm not sure. I would
> guess that he would know because of connection to the wands, and
> Fawkes/Dumbledore. "Not very many people" does allow room for some
> people to know. It's probably Privy information, and since 
Ollivander
> was selling wands, Dumbledore let him know why it was so important 
that
> he know the minute the second wand was sold.
> 
> I'm hoping that Rowling will eventually address Fawkes and his tail
> fathers. Fawkes seems like a special Phoenix, given that Dumbledore 
is
> an extremely unique individual. So I wonder what Fawkes' history is 
and
> why did he only give 2 feathers? Fawkes is also quite fond of Harry 
and
> I think it goes beyond Harry being totally loyal to Dumbledore.
> 
> -Katze

I have a few more knotty questions to add to the pot here.

1) In CoS when Harry is brought to Dumbledore after Justin and Nearly 
Headless Nick are petrified (the chapter called Polyjuice Potion) 
Harry notes the decrepit looking Fawkes just before he burns 
drops "another tail feather."  It sounds as if more than one has been 
lost at this burning.  (I know the traditional phoneix burns only 
every 1000 years, but it sounds like Fawkes helps with Dumbledore's 
heating bill more often than that.)  Why are these feathers not 
collected and used for wands?  Why just the 2 that are housed in 
Voldy's and Harry's?

2) I am sensing from this and other conversations that people think 
that the Fawkes feather wand is Voldy's first.  Are we sure it is his 
first?  Perhaps he has a beginner model and then after resurfacing 
from his "many dangerous transformations," he wanted a new wand to go 
with the new face, you know, one with sparks that would match his 
eyes?  (Just kidding.)  Anyway, so he could have gotten himself a new 
wand before the reign of terror began (because Ollivander stated he 
didn't know what the wand was going out in the world to do.)  It 
seems like the Fawkes feather wands are more powerful than your 
garden variety wand.  It seems in the book (and, sorry to mention it 
here, but it fits, in the movie this is underscored) that the wand 
Harry gets is special.  Not in the usual student section.  So perhaps 
Voldy was chosen by the more powerful wand after his training as a 
wizard?  Perhaps he did grow into his wand?  

3) (This is more of a general wand question.)  It is noted in the 
Digon Alley chapter of PS/SS that James wand is more powerful than 
Lily's.  At first I thought that perhaps he was more magical than she 
was, perhaps because of his wizarding parentage.  But then I wondered 
if perhaps *Lily* was more powerful.  Perhaps her wand didn't need to 
be as powerful, since she supplied some natural, inborn power.  

"rachelrenee1" 





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