[HPforGrownups] Re: Question about the fact L.V. and Harry's wands are brothers?

[Katze]

No: HPFGUIDX 32245

rachelrenee1 wrote:

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> 
> I have a few more knotty questions to add to the pot here.
> 
> 1) In CoS when Harry is brought to Dumbledore after Justin and Nearly
> Headless Nick are petrified (the chapter called Polyjuice Potion)
> Harry notes the decrepit looking Fawkes just before he burns
> drops "another tail feather."  It sounds as if more than one has been
> lost at this burning.  (I know the traditional phoneix burns only
> every 1000 years, but it sounds like Fawkes helps with Dumbledore's
> heating bill more often than that.)  Why are these feathers not
> collected and used for wands?  Why just the 2 that are housed in
> Voldy's and Harry's?

I wonder if the element has to be "taken". Ollivander mentions a fine
male unicorn that was quite unhappy after he took a tail hair. But then
again, Fleur's wands contains a hair from her Grandmother, and I'm
assuming that she would've given the hair freely. I guess my point
is...that it has to be taken (whether given by the creature, or taken by
the maker), from the creature. Otherwise, people could walk along the
forest and pick up any unicorn hair they find and use it. I think
there's some sort of magical connection when it's taken directly from
the creature.

Didn't D state that Fawkes has done his die/rise from the flames thing
about 7 times since D has had him? Awfully short life span for that
bird. Or was it 7 during Fawkes'
existence?

> 
> 2) I am sensing from this and other conversations that people think
> that the Fawkes feather wand is Voldy's first.  Are we sure it is his
> first?  Perhaps he has a beginner model and then after resurfacing
> from his "many dangerous transformations," he wanted a new wand to go
> with the new face, you know, one with sparks that would match his
> eyes?  (Just kidding.)  Anyway, so he could have gotten himself a new
> wand before the reign of terror began (because Ollivander stated he
> didn't know what the wand was going out in the world to do.)  It
> seems like the Fawkes feather wands are more powerful than your
> garden variety wand.  It seems in the book (and, sorry to mention it
> here, but it fits, in the movie this is underscored) that the wand
> Harry gets is special.  Not in the usual student section.  So perhaps
> Voldy was chosen by the more powerful wand after his training as a
> wizard?  Perhaps he did grow into his wand?

Now that I think about it, it is quite possibly that V has a new wand.
And that would alleviate the possibility that Ollivander knew the
connection that TR = V. He wouldn't have to know that. This is very
interesting from the standpoint that V was not powerful enough to have a
wand like this when he first started. (I assume that Fawkes' tail
feathers are unique..because there are other wizards who have phoenix
tail feathers who aren't as powerful). He grew more powerful over time,
with experimentation, etc, but he wasn't initially as powerful. That
begs the question of whether Harry is truly powerful on his own, or he's
he more powerful because of V's first attempt at killing him. I suspect
it's a combination of both. I think his inherent magical powers are
quite strong, but I think the traces of V left in Harry is what actually
cause that particular wand to pick Harry. 


> 3) (This is more of a general wand question.)  It is noted in the
> Digon Alley chapter of PS/SS that James wand is more powerful than
> Lily's.  At first I thought that perhaps he was more magical than she
> was, perhaps because of his wizarding parentage.  But then I wondered
> if perhaps *Lily* was more powerful.  Perhaps her wand didn't need to
> be as powerful, since she supplied some natural, inborn power.
> 
> "rachelrenee1"
> 

I don't remember this notation, but I always got the impression that
Lily was quite powerful in charm work...more so than the average person.
James, I figure, was very much like Hermione, in the sense that they
catch on quickly. James never seemed to give up either. Harry certainly
has the determination of his father...work at something long enough, and
you'll succeed (Harry's patronus and calling his Firebolt to the first
task, and James animagus). I have the impression that Lily and James are
probably even, or Lily was slightly ahead of James. But at the same
time, perhaps we can't compare the two, since their strengths were in
different areas. Lily never became an animagus, and nothing has ever
been said about James' charm work.

-Katze