SHIP: Questions for R/Hers...

[Kimberly]

No: HPFGUIDX 12216

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Rina Stewart" <rina at l...> wrote:
> Ebony wrote:
> 
> <<One of the top arguments that R/Hers have used in the past to 
debunk HGTG is that "Harry has everything else, so Ron deserves 
something that he doesn't have... the girl."
> 
> Validity of the above position aside... doesn't this reasoning work 
most 
> satisfactorily if the hero actually wants the girl, and the girl 
(you have 
> to admit the terminology involved in this position is troublesome) 
chooses 
> the alternate hero/sidekick over him?...
> 

Rina said (and I sniped as much as possible despite loving her whole 
post):
> 
> I've been sitting here reading your message repeatedly, and damned 
if I can't even defend the above rationale that apparently some 
R/Hers have taken, because it's rather insulting. Who started that?! 
LOL The relationship between Ron and Hermione should be just that - 
BETWEEN RON AND HERMIONE. 

Rina, I agree completely.  If Ron and Hermione get together as some 
sort of consolation prize, I want nothing of it.  I think they'll get 
together, and I will be happy if/when they do, but it's not about 
Harry at all, it's because of the two of them and the way I see them. 
The idea that they should get together that way is kind of gross.  It 
belittles Hermione as a character/person, and does the same to Ron 
and Harry too, for that matter.  I've never felt particularly sorry 
for Ron (except in the way I feel sorry for anyone who has to be that 
age - I remember knowing better and being dumb anyway); there's 
nothing wrong with him that a few years wisdom and a slight ebb in 
the raging hormones can't fix.  If I pity anyone, it's Harry.  He's 
the one who's life inspires pity, although I'm sure he'd be spitting 
mad if you told him that.  I'm not about to do it.  And I certainly 
wouldn't put him with someone as a door #3 booby prize either.  He's 
gonna get a wonderful woman to love him :D.  She may still be his 
best friend's kid sister right now, but I'm convinced Ginny's going 
to become a strong, wonderful woman, and she'll win Harry's heart on 
her own merit - no pity either way (sorry, it's almost Valentine's 
Day, and there's a little sap overdrive going on).  I want Ron and 
Hermione to get together because I think they're cute together, and I 
think JKR made them that way.  Harry factors into their someday 
relationship only as their best friend, as far as I'm concerned.

> 
> I don't like HGTG because I don't think the hero wants the girl, 
and the girl doesn't want the hero, and for the love of all that is 
holy, why isn't here a better way of phrasing this? <g> 

Hee!  I had to giggle at that last bit!  I agree - I've seen nothing 
that has made me thing that Harry has any feelings for Hermione, nor 
Hermione for Harry.  What I did see (and thought 'finally, they're 
starting to show their feelings!') in GoF is Ron acting stupid 
jealous about Krum, Hermione acting stupid jealous about Fleur, and 
Harry simply watching in amusement (until someday soon, he'll find 
himself stupid in love as well - sorry, have to take every 
opportunity to revel in H/G joy!).  I know that's not how everyone 
sees it, and that's fine, but I do see it that way.  No consolation 
prizes in *my* potterverse.

> 
> <<Also, yesterday in chat I asked the crowd what an extrapolated, 
paired-off 
> future Ron and Hermione would talk about if they weren't arguing.  
> 
> I see R/H talking about work, household chores, laundry, plans for 
the weekend, that vacation Ron is dragging her on because she's a 
workaholic, things like that. <g> They have friends in common, too, 
so they talk about and with them. 

Allow me to add a few:
They'll talk about the children, of course, and how hard it's going 
to be on Ruby and little Albie when their big sister Minnie goes off 
to Hogwarts next year.  They'll talk about the news at the MoM and 
Ron and Arthur's ammendment to the Muggle Protection Act, and about 
Hermione's latest book, and what to get Harry and Ginny for their 
anniversary ;), and who to get to babysit on Friday when they go to 
the opening gala for Weasley Wizard Wheezes' newest shop ('is it the 
8th, or 9th one, Herm?' - '8th, Ron sweetheart, remember we talked 
them out of opening one in that muggle shopping center.').  They'll 
talk about Neville's new experimental breed of snapdragon 
that 'breathes' fire, and about the latest letter from Charlie in 
Romania and the new baby Bill and Fleur are expecting, and the 
impending visit of Hermione's parents.  They'll talk about the best 
charm to use to widen the doorway for when Hagrid and Olympe come to 
dinner next weekend, and Ron will be shocked when Hermione tells him 
Olympe is going to announce that she's pregnant, until he remembers 
how strangely giddy Hagrid was acting last week when they had lunch 
at the Three Broomsticks...

How's that for an afternoon's conversation?
Kimberly,
Who's beginning to be tempted by fanfic after all.  
Must... resist....