Harry's eyes and scar (seer??), Lily adopted

meboriqua at aol.com meboriqua at aol.com
Sat Jul 28 13:27:21 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 23127

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., pigwidgeon37 at y... wrote:

> Which brings me to the "Harry is a Seer" theory: The only reference 
> in canon are his dreams, and I humbly ask you not to throw rotten 
> tomatoes at me if I say I don't think it makes him a seer. Harry's 
> two dreams don't show the future, they show him what's going on in 
> the Riddle House in Little Hangleton. In both dreams, Voldemort uses 
> one of the unforgivable curses, first Avada Kedavra, then Cruciatus. 
> Had those two scenes happened without Harry being asleep, IMO his 
> scar would have hurt as well. But when he is asleep, his mind is 
less  controlled and more susceptible, therefore he not only feels 
pain,  but also sees what's going on.>

Good morning and sorry for the long snip.  Those two dreams you 
referred to make excellent points against Harry's Seeing, but there 
are two other dreams Harry had that had nothing to do with his scar at 
all.  This has been discussed before, but in PoA, Harry has a dream 
where he is following something that he cannot see and what he is 
following has hooves.  This dream happened before he knew about Prongs 
(and sorry, I can never find that dream in PoA).  He also dreamed, in 
SS, about Quirrel's turban talking to him, before, obviously, he knew 
Voldie was living in it.  People have also said that Harry's dreams 
about dragons (in PoA when he dreams that the Slytherins ride dragons 
instead of broomsticks at the Quidditch final) are also signs of 
Seeing since the first task in the Triwizard Tournament dealt with 
dragons.

Both of the dreams that I mentioned are vague, but Seeing is not a 
precise art.  I think JKR makes that point clear.  Someone mentioned 
"The Mists of Avalon" as an example, saying that the women who could 
See didn't have complete control over their Seeing and could not See 
everything all the time.  Any book, movie or tv show I have seen that 
deals with Seeing shows it to be hard to control and often left open 
for interpretation.  Even Trelawney (who I think is a big phony 
anyway) does not know when she really Sees.  Harry is still quite 
young and is learning to control his magical abilities and his 
emotions.  Recognizing the possibility of being a Seer is beyond him 
at this point.

--jenny from ravenclaw, who'd like to be able to See sometimes, too 
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