Framing Frank (Was TMR's training; relative ages; Hagrid Hist ory)

Florence fgcjnk at btinternet.com
Tue May 15 19:59:44 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 18783


> In GoF Ch. 1 (US), it says, "Frank had come back from the war with a 
very
> stiff leg and a great dislike of crowds and loud noises, and had 
been
> working for the Riddles ever since."
> 

Okay,  the "ever since" here doesn't necessarily imply a long period. 
 But what about what follows:
"Always thought he was odd...Unfriendly like. I'm sure if I've offered 
him a cuppa once, I've offered it a hundred times.  Never wanted to 
mix, he didn't"
"Ah now," said a woman at the bar, "he had a hard war, Frank, he likes 
the quiet life.  That's no reason to -"

The second comment here disputes the first statement that he 
was ALWAYS odd and implies he was okay(ish) before the war.  So the 
first speaker must have had hndreds of opportunities to offer him a 
cuppa since he returned.  Also I think the second statement would be 
different if he was very recently back from the war - more along the 
lines of "Ah, now.. he's not long back from the war and not over it 
yet - needs some quiet"

Then later:
"I always thought he had a nasty look about him, right enough" grunted 
a man...
"War turned him funny, if you ask me" said the landlord.

Here again the landlord implies that he was ok(ish) before the war.  
He must have been back for some time for people to notice that the war 
had turned him funny (People would have made allowances in the 
immediate aftermath)

For the record, the first batch of british casulties came in May/June 
1940 - he'd then hve been transported home and demobbed say summer 
1940.  I still doubt that the Riddle murders occurred before about 
1944 although I do accept the evidence is open to interpretation.

Oh.. just noticed on the first page of GoF: "Every version of the 
tale, however, started in the same place: fifty years before, at 
daybreak ...and a maid had entered the drawing room to find all three 
Riddles dead."  This fifty years sounds a little more precise than the 
CoS fifty years to me, although it could still be rounded.  Definitely 
puts the murders at about 1944 though.

Florence







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