Dumbledore's nose - Harry's scar - Messiah plot - Ron the star?

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--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Gabriel Edson" <feycat at f...> wrote:
> 2. Why doesn't Harry's scar hurt in the Leaky Cauldron? Quirrell 
was back from Albania, wearing his turban. Theoretically, V. was with 
him at this point. Why does Harry's scar hurt only when Snape stares 
at him during the first feast?

I thought that this was because Voldie was not with Quirell at this 
time.  We know he could roam independently of Quirrell (like in the 
Dark Forest and at the end of battle w/ Quirrell).  And at the 
banquet, Harry's scar hurt because of Quirrell, not Snape.  If you 
remember, Snape was talking to Quirrell at the time, and Quirrell's 
back was towards Harry.  This scene is the movie shows this very well.

> 
> 3. Messiah plot - OH NO! Please, I hope that JKR has more 
originality than to have some ridiculous old prophesy lurking about 
ready to tout Harry as the Kwisatch Hadarach - oops, I mean the one 
who had come to bring redemption - oops, I mean the one who is to 
bring balance to the Force.... I'm sure you get my point. This has 
been DONE TO DEATH. I think the "Order of the Phoenix" sounds a lot 
like the "Order of Merlin," and may simply be a group of people who 
have been awarded this medal at one point or another. Or Harry may be 
awarded it during book 5. We have no proof whatsoever that Sirius, 
Lupin, or any of the others belong to this order.

I am kind of hoping that a prophecy thing doesnt pop up.  I will 
never forgive George Lucas for The Phantom Menace.  He had 20 years 
to come up with something original (and a decent script for that 
matter) and he failed.

> 
> 5. I'm sure that other people have considered the possibility that 
Dumbledore somehow IS Harry and the reason he seems to be so clueless 
in letting things happen is that he knows that they have to happen 
this way in order for the ultimate result to occur?

I have been considering the "history repeats itself" idea.  We know 
from the Dumbledore Chocolate Frog card that Dumbledore defeated the 
dark Wizard GrindelWald 50 years ago, which would have been around 
the time that Tom Riddle was in Hogwarts.  Perhaps there is some sort 
of reincarnation of evil wizard spirit thing going on.  Perhaps that 
is what Harry is as well, only for the good side?

One thing which I think would help is a timeline of all the events 
that are listed in the books.  JKR loves to use obscure references 
from previous books as major plot elements down the line.  If anyone 
knows of a good timeline out there, let me know!  Thanks!

Greg