Catching up: MAGIC DISHWASHER, metathinking, Voldemort's body (Quite Long)

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No: HPFGUIDX 47641

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Grey Wolf" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:
> Anne wrote:
<snip>
> > Going one step further, if Dumbledore's intent was for Voldemort 
to 
> > use a flawed potion containing Harry's blood, how exactly did he 
> > *expect* V to obtain the blood without putting Harry through as 
bad 
> > an experience as happened in the graveyard in GoF?
> > 
> > Anne
> 
> Note: This is just especulation, since there is no canon for this 
(as 
> it hasn't happened and will never have the chance to happen).
> 
> I'd say that Dumbledore's plan was that Voldemort would take longer 
to 
> be able to make an attempt on Harry: later, when Harry was more 
> prepared to survive the encounter. Or maybe I was wrong and 
Dumbledore 
> didn't expect Harry's blood to be used at all and the flaw is more 
in 
> the fact of using Peter as ingredient.
<snip>

Okay, *that's* where I was confused.  I had thought the "flawed 
potion" part of MD meant that Dumbledore expected Voldemort to make an 
attempt to get Harry's blood (and thus, necessarily, Harry) sometime 
in Harry's 4th  year at Hogwarts.

By the way, I have just read, and *highly* recommend, Pip!Squeak's 
originating posts 39662 and 40044, and Grey's defenses in post 39854, 
at the beginnigs of the MD theory

These posts also pretty much answered my second big question about MD 
that I mentioned in my original post, which would have been: How could 
a Dumbledore who said "Hasn't your experience with the Time-Turner 
taught you anything, Harry?  The consequences of our actions are 
always so complicated, so diverse, that predicting the future is a 
very difficult business indeed...", be the man behind the shrieking 
shack scene?

But, look at what we know:
-Voldemort is after Harry's life, made his first attempt on it when 
Harry was 15 months old, and is still after him.
-Dumbledore knows the reason why, and as of the end of Harry's 4th 
year, still hasn't been ready to tell Harry ("when you are ready, you 
will know").
-So, Dumbledore *must* give special and intense training to Harry in 
particular.  This is both crucial and urgent.  Voldemort didn't want 
to kill a baby boy for nothing.  This is big.

This makes Pip!Squeak's Shrieking Shack theory, far from being a 
cold-hearted machination, rather an almost desperate attempt to 
protect both Harry and the wizarding world.  So, to answer my own 
question: Pip!Squeak's posts make it clear that Dumbledore, though he 
knows it may not work out, still must at least *attempt* to help. And 
the MD theory describes one of those possible attempts -- the events 
at the Shrieking Shack.  Dumbledore did not necessarily have all his 
eggs in this one basket (though so far, we don't see any other 
baskets, because Harry doesn't), but it was worth trying.

> Hope that helps,
> 
> Grey Wolf, who wonders who are the 17 people that have never heard 
> about MAGIC DISHWASHER or at least stated as much in his poll

It definitely does help, and if those 17 people are for real, they 
should read those posts I mentioned. Meanwhile, I am seriously 
considering getting one of those dishwasher things...

By the way, I mentioned this in a post once before, but it got no 
reaction:  what if Arthur Weasley is using his job at the MoM as a 
cover for doing a bit of useful spying for Dumbldore?  He's in a 
department which is considered insignificant, has only one old wizard 
under him, and has the perfect excuse for performing raids on 
suspicious houses!  I'm not sure whether Fudge set this up at 
Dumbledore's urging, or if Dumbledore and Weasley are just taking 
advantage of the situation unbeknownst to Fudge, but I bet I'm right!
Incidentally, the old warlock Arthur works with is called Perkins.  
Isn't that who he borrowed the tent from for the QWC?

Anne
Who notices that there is now an "Anne U" on the list, and feels 
guilty for taking the name as her signiture... you think I should 
change it?