Time Travel in PoA (was: Lupin is James - time travel)
beccafran <rbroeker@hotmail.com>
rbroeker at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 29 04:31:24 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 48928
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sevenhundredandthirteen
<sevenhundredandthirteen at y...>" <sevenhundredandthirteen at y...> wrote:
<snip>
> When H2/H2 run around trying to get to Buckbeak they hide the
whole
> time trying to stay out if sight. Hermione says: "If anyone's
looking
> out of a window - " When you think about it, it's no big deal if
> anyone sees Harry and Hermione, as the other Harry and Hermione
are
> hidden under the cloak, so there's no "Oh dear- there's two of the
> same people running out there on the lawn."
<snip>
> So long as Hermione made sure
> she was never seen in the same place twice, none of her classmates
> could *really* be sure that she was actually in every single class
> simultaneously- it was only Ernie MacMillan's word after all. So,
the
> way I see it, as long as none of her classmates were in two places
at
> once, she could be.
<snip>
I found something very interesting in the scene in the Shrieking
Shack that relates to this issue...
Lupin is consulting the Marauder's Map. Here's the passage:
"'The number of times I saw James disappearing under it...' said
Lupin, waving an impatient hand again. 'The point is, even if you're
wearing an Invisibility Cloak, you still show up on the Marauder's
Map. I watched you cross the grounds and enter Hagrid's hut. Twenty
minutes later, you left Hagrid, and set off back toward the castle.
But you were now accompanied by somebody else.'
'What?' said Harry. 'No, we weren't!'
"I couldn't believe my eyes," said Lupin, still pacing, and
ignoring Harry's interruption. *'I thought the map must be
malfunctioning.* How could he be with you?'" (p. 347, American
paperback ed.) -- emphasis mine
Later, Lupin says, "They've--got--a--right--to--know--
everything! ... Ron's kept him as a pet! There are parts of it even
I don't understand!" (p. 350)
So Lupin was consulting the Marauder's Map, and saw HHR go down to
Hagrid's hut. While all that was going on, however, Harry2 and
Hermione2 were hiding outside Hagrid's hut and freeing Buckbeak. Did
Lupin see this on the map? It sure sounds to me like he did, and I
think that's what he's referring to when he says "there are parts of
it even I don't understand." He obviously understands just fine that
Pettigrew was Ron's pet in rat form. He must have "thought the map
must be malfunctioning" because he saw H2 and H2 on it.
Just some thoughts... Could this turn out to have significance in a
later novel? What is the significance, if any, in PoA?
BeccaFran
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