Time Travel in PoA - The Map (was: Re: Lupin is James and Ti...

[beccafran <rbroeker@hotmail.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 48938

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sharana.geo 
<sharana.geo at y...>" <sharana.geo at y...> wrote:
> H&H2 do NOT show up on the map, because they do not exist at that 
> point in time. The time loop has NOT been created yet. In the 
> Shrieking Shack we are told that "The Map never lies". Lupin 
thought 
> that there must be a mistake because he saw PP in it, he was 
> confused about it as he believed PP was dead. He was just about to 
> go to find out for himself what was going on, when he saw Sirius on 
> the map. 

I agree with Pip!Squeak who said:
>I think, Sharana you are getting confused because you keep looking 
>at it from the Point of View of Harry and Hermione, who travel 
>through events twice. Plus you keep seeing the use of the Time 
>Turner as non inevitable. By the time Harry and Hermione decide to 
>use the TT, they've actually already used it.

>From the point of view of Harry and Hermione, the time loop hasn't 
been created during the scene in the Shrieking Shack. However, Lupin 
only goes through these events once. For him, there is no moment when 
the loop was not created. There are simply two Harrys and two 
Hermiones walking around in his world for three hours.

I'm not sure I totally understand the concept of the endless time 
loop which is never actually created, but either way you look at it, 
Lupin only goes through the events once and is *never* in a moment 
when the loop does not exist.

Personally, I think he sees H2 & H2 on the map, and doesn't mention 
it for some reason. But why???

BeccaFran