More LOLLIPOPS, Timeline, WL3

judyserenity judyshapiro at earthlink.net
Fri Feb 8 00:45:19 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 34868

On when Snape turned spy, I said:
> > before we go any further on this timeline discusison, let me 
> > point out that, as far as I can recall, we actually have no info 
> > on how long Snape spied for Dumbledore.  

And Cindy replied:
> ...  Really, if Snape if going to do enough spying 
> to do any good, you'd think he would be doing it for more 
> than a little while.  I also like a longer time period because 
> a longer time period = greater risk to Snape, which makes Snape 
> even more brave, which ought to appeal to the Snapefans.

True, but I like the idea that Snape turned to the Light Side right 
before the fall of Voldy.  That way, we have proof that Dumbledore 
believes in "repent at the last minute, and you will be forgiven," 
which would support my theory that the Potter series is actually a 
Christian allegory. 

Cindy asks:
>...If Dumbledore doesn't insist on something like the 
> ambush, what is Dumbledore thinking?  Why does he just take Snape's 
> word?  Give me something to go on here, people, anything.  Did 
> Dumbledore use Veritaserum on Snape?  

How about: Dumbledore peers over his glasses (he does wear glasses, 
right?) at Snape, his light blue eyes twinkling, and decides Snape is 
telling the truth. 



Then, Cindy summarized my "Too EEEWW to be TrEEEWW" theory as 
>> Voldemort spares Lily to hand her over to Snape, who can use a 
>> lifetime of illegal curses and potions to have 
>> his way with her>

And responded to it thusly:
> Oh, man.  Creative and logical though it is, this new "Eeww" theory 
> isn't nudging me in the right direction at all. Forget about Snape 
> having Lily's picture all over the dungeon walls.  That's small 
> potatoes.  Now, Snape is so pathetic, disturbed and deranged that he 
> wants Lily even if he can only have her through the Imperius Curse 
> and a cauldron full of love potion?...

First of all, thank you Cindy for realizing that I was the first to 
propose this theory, as well as calling it creative and logical!  
However, in my theory, Voldemort just *thinks* Snape would be willing 
to stoop to love potions or Imperio to get Lily to fall in love with 
him.  In my theory, Snape is actually appalled by the whole idea.

Of course, the fact that Voldy would propose such an idea means that 
Voldy is disturbed and deranged, but we already *know* that. 


On the topic of whether Snape was a love-sick stalker, I said:
>> If [sic] fact, I imagine [Snape] as showing no outward signs of his
>> unrequited love at all, throwing himself into his work.  

 And Cindy asked:
> Yes, but. . . if Snape shows no outward signs of his unrequited 
> love, then how does Voldemort (or anyone else like Peter) ever learn 
> about it?

Um, good question.  Well, at some point, maybe Voldy asks Snape "Why 
do you hate James Potter so much", and since Voldy can detect lies, 
Snape has to fess up that he loves Lily. (In my theory, Peter doesn't 
have to know that Snape loves Lily.) 


Sadly, Cindy said she
> thinks she has utterly failed in her mission to establish 
> Snape's backstory, [and] is unfurling her white flag, and who hopes 
> to talk Elkins into posting her "Up With Avery" essay

Don't worry, Cindy!  Maybe when OoP comes out, the crew of Lollipops 
will go down with our Ship!  (Er, what's the "Up with Avery" Essay, 
and where would Elkins post it?)

-- Judy





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