Ptolemy/Flamel/Protecting Harry

[bboy_mn]

No: HPFGUIDX 40973

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Peter and Denise Clements" <sparky60 at b...>
wrote:
>  
> 
> Bboy_mn Originally wrote: 
> 
> >What did Ptolemy ever do 
> >that was so great that we 
> >accept him as a wizard without
> >question? Nothing as far as I know. 
> 

INFO ADDED BY sparky60 (Peter and Denise):
> Extract from website http://www.seds.org/billa/psc/theman.html 
> 
> Ptolemy (aka Claudius Ptolemaeus, Ptolomaeus, Klaudios Ptolemaios,
Ptolemeus) lived in Alexandria (in Egypt) from approx. 87 -150 AD.
Very little is known about his personal life. He was an astronomer,
mathemetician and geographer. ... EDIT ....


BBoy_MN New Comment:
The question wasn't 'What did Ptolemy do that was so great?'; it was
'What did Ptolemy do that was so great that WE ACCEPT HIM AS A WIZARD
WITHOUT QUESTION?". In other words, why question the validity of
Flamel as a wizard and blindly accept the validity of Ptolemy.

Personally, it's easier for me to believe that Flamel was a wizard
than it is to believe that Ptolemy was. 

> 
> Now me: (sparky60 - Peter & Denise)
> 
>  I, for one, had never heard of Nicholas Flamel and didn't realise
that he was a real person. 
> 

> Bboy_mn Originally wrote:
> 
> >Where the hell is everybody else? The point being, who is 
> >helping Harry? They know Voldemort is obsessed with Harry, 
> >so where is the army of powerful wizards guarding Harry; 
> >if for no other reason than to usehim as bait to capture 
> >Voldemort? 
> 

> Now me: (sparky60 - Peter & Denise)
> 
> 1. Dumbledore (the only wizard who Voldemort and his followers fear)
has put 4 Privet Drive under protection so that Harry cannot be
harmed. Harry is also protected (to a degree) at Hogwarts ... ...
EDITED ... ...
> 
> 2. At the moment we have a great portion of the wizarding world in
denial. Even Fudge doesn't want to believe that Voldemort is on the
rise (GoF) 
> 
> So it isn't that they're sitting back doing *nothing* it's more to
the point that they don't want to believe that anything is happening.
> 
> Denise
> PS. Sorry this is late
> 

BBOY_MN Replies:
Everything you say is 100% valid, but I was making a point about war
and the apparent lack of help from Flamel during the last Voldemort
war. The point was that during war there are LOTS of people sitting on
the sidelines doing nothing. Just trying to re-enforce the point that
it's not that unrealistic for a 650 man to not take an active part in
a war. For the most part, we don't send old men to fight our wars. Old
men stay home, drink beer, and complain about the government while
children go off to fight the wars.  Again, everything you say is 100%
right, but my point was that, in any war, a majority of people do not
take an active part.

BBOY_MN