Voldemort's support in and pre-GOF (was Spying game)

[davewitley]

No: HPFGUIDX 39699

Pip wrote:
> What I will say 
> is that I think Voldemort is lying through his teeth at the end of 
> GoF.

Hm.  I have always seen the biggest barrier to all these ever-so-evil 
theories the fact that they all left Voldemort to suffer in Albania.  
Ever-so-venal, yes; ever-so-ex-DE (eg Bagman), yes; ever-so-
supportive in Harry's Hogwarts years: how come they didn't do 
anything, er, constructive?

 So is Malfoy. Malfoy is loyal to Voldemort throughout the 
> disembodiment; he is simply not stupid enough to kill himself by 
> letting Voldemort use his body.
> 
> Briefly, I would argue that Voldemort does have at least Malfoy, 
and 
> quite possibly other followers left. Malfoy's action in giving 
Ginny 
> the Tom Riddle diary (CoS) is extremely effective if you consider 
it 
> as a tactic in a continuing war rather than just a piece of 
malicious 
> revenge. It comes incredibly close to killing Harry, closing 
Hogwarts 
> and discrediting Dumbledore and Arthur Weasley - two of Voldemorts 
> major opponents. 

Now I had envisaged a heart-to-heart between V and Malfoy in which 
Voldemort tears strips off Malfoy for his unfocussed independent 
action in COS.  Probably after asking for his diary back.  In what 
sense do you mean Malfoy is lying: he proclaims his loyalty - do you 
mean that he proclaims an ineffective loyalty when in fact he is 
effective in his loyalty?

For whose benefit is Voldemort's performance?  Unless he intends 
Harry to escape, what is the point of the charade?

> Equally, the Death Eater march in GoF does a very good job of 
> distracting everyone while Barty Jr's making his first escape 
> attempt. The problem turns out to be that no one has bothered 
telling 
> Barty it's part of the plan.

But Barty isn't escaping because of Voldemort, is he?  It's 
independent action.  Or are you saying that Voldemort's increasing 
strength gave Barty more strength, unknown to Barty?  Even so, 
Barty's decision was independent, surely?  There is no point to his 
escape attempt from Voldemort's POV.

David