Snape-Quirrelmort Conundrum/Time-Turner

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No: HPFGUIDX 39851

Eloise wrote:
> But you know what intrigues me? Why couldn't Quirrell get the stone 
> out of the mirror, if he wanted it for Voldemort and not himself? 

This question was quite apparent on my last re-reading, when I 
noticed that Quirrell specifically says that he sees the stone in the 
mirror, that he's giving it to his master, but when Dumbledore 
describes the trick in the hospital wing later, he says that the 
reason those who want the stone for themselves won't be able to get 
it is that they will only see themselves with all the gold and 
invulnerability that it can give them, and not the stone itself.

> Eloise
> Who had a significant thought regarding the TT, whilst lying in bed 
> listening to the Dawn Chorus this morning, but  can't remember it 
> now! I know it was to do with its implications for free will. If I 
> stop thinking about it, maybe it will come back. 

I was thinking about TT and free will last night as I was falling 
asleep!  I don't know if we were thinking the same thing, but time 
travel definitely can be differently thought about depending on 
whether one believes in predestination/fate or in total free will.  

If someone believes in fate, then everything that we do is already 
decided and set in some way, and it is easy to see that any change 
that may or may not take place is fated to occur, and will or will 
not occur no matter what.  Hermione is already in all three classes 
simultaneously because fate dictates that she is going to use the TT 
at the end of each of the first two classes.

If someone decides that they intentionally want to see if they can 
screw with fate, i.e. Harry goes after the Invisibility Cloak, even 
though he thinks it was supposed to be picked up by Snape, as fate 
dictated the first time around, then would his memory suddenly change 
to fit with a history of the time in the SS without Snape sneaking 
in?  Or is fate of such a nature as something would prevent Harry 
from being able to get the cloak?  Hermione did grab him and try to 
stop it.  Maybe that was fate!

If one does not believe in fate, "changing" the past and future 
becomes somewhat more feasible, if not any easier to wrap your head 
around.  :)

-- 
marilyn