Albania/DISHWASHER/SPYGAMES

[grey_wolf_c]

No: HPFGUIDX 40075

Pippin wrote:
> The SPYGAMES/DISHWASHER theories present the battle as a 
> contest of wits rather than good vs. evil, but so far we actually 
> have the characters, for all their intricate plotting, making dumber 
> mistakes than their surface reading counterparts. It would be 
> grossly foolish of Dumbledore to offer Pettigrew to Voldemort for  
> the MAGIC DISHWASHER unless Dumbledore knew that 
> Voldemort had no easy alternatives to using Pettigrew for the 
> spell. But as Voldemort himself says, the task is one that many 
> of his followers would give their right hands to perform. 

Yes, any would do. So why would Voldemort call *another* DE to give his 
right hand for him when he's already got *one right there*? Besides, 
not all would be so desiring. I doubt Malfoy would do it. And I don't 
think that, if Voldemort has doubts about his DEs' loyalties, he would 
want any of them close to him while in his debilitated state. Notice 
that he didn't call them until *after* the reembodiment, when we know 
that he had been gaining stenght ("the mark has become progresively 
clear"), and the power to use the mark is minor, problably: just a 
little willing on Voldemort's part. And there is all that shivering in 
the group when he accuses them of unloyalty. A few may still be loyal, 
but Voldemort *does not need* to take any risks: he knows Peter will be 
enough, and he knows Peter's not going to leave him, because he's the 
only one that can protect him from Dumbledore and, what's more 
important, from Black's wraith.

All the while the potion has been the *easiest* method. Voldemort has 
everything he needs right at hand, in his father's house, except for 
the enemies blood. It's thanks to Dumbledore's plotting (or simply due 
to Voldeemort's wrong ideas) that Voldemort believes that using Harry 
will give him Harry's protection (which it may. We don't know. But in 
any case, it's got two edges to it). So why, if he's already involved 
in a major plot to get Harry to the graveyard, should he get in contact 
with yet another DE just to have him drop by to give him his left hand, 
when *he's already got a suitable left hand nursing him*?

> It is just as foolish for SPYGAMES!Voldemort not to realize that, 
> having expended his one irreplaceable resource, his immortality, 
> for the sake of killing Harry, he has committed himself to a fight 
> to the finish.  He gains nothing by letting Harry get away. Time is 
> now on Dumbledore's side not Voldemort's, because though 
> Dumbledore may be weakening with age, Harry is growing 
> stronger. And now Voldemort will be aging too. 

Note one: SPYGAME? Where did that come from? What does the acronym 
mean? Who presented it? If you're refering to the spy game post of Pip, 
it's still the MAGIC DISHWASHER theory, it's its second part, 
explaining the graveyard scene.

Note two: Voldemort *did not* give up his inmortality to kill Harry. He 
gave up his debilitated inmortality so he had enough power to take over 
the world. He may have been inmortal, but I don't think that his vapour 
form of inmortality was what he had in mind all those years ago when he 
started looking for inmortality. He wants to be inmortal, but also very 
powerful, and, without the PS, he's not going to manage both without 
passing through a mortal body again.

Note three: He gains nothing leaving Harry run away *but* he has gained 
much with having him around. He's out of the cul-de-sac alley he had 
managed to get into with his vapour form, for one thing. His DEs know 
he's once again powerful, know he can touch Harry, and know he can make 
Harry flee. He looks like the old wizard he once was. And, as soons as 
one of them adds one and one, they will realize that the Pirori 
Incantatem effect was a stupid coincidence, and they will get Voldemort 
a new wand so he can kill the brat. Not only that: this time, the face 
off between Voldemort and Harry hsn't finished in Voldemort's defeat, 
but in a draw of sorts (although I can tell you that the side that 
flees the battlefield is generally accepted as the defeated party).

Note four: the time is running the same for both sides. Voldemort still 
has three years to kill Harry, and now that he's back to his old self, 
he'll probably start devicing again the plans that last time worked so 
well, in fact bringing the entire English WW to their colective knees.
 
> Ultimately, SPYGAMES leaves us back where we started, with a 
> battle of good vs. evil. Voldemort plans to allow  Harry to escape 
> the graveyard because he, Voldemort, is not willing to face death. 
> Harry is going to win, not because Dumbledore has been more 
> clever than Voldemort, but  because unlike Voldemort, Harry and 
> his friends don't consider their personal survival  the highest 
> cause.
> 
> Pippin

If you want to take this to the metathinking game of what JKR wants to 
tell us, do so. It's outside the sphere of influence of MAGIC 
DISHWASHER, as I've said so many times before. The fact is that the 
next books we're probably going to watch the darkest side of the WW: 
Voldemort scheming new dark plans, Dumbledore working underhanded 
because he has to fight against Vcoldemort and the MoM at the same 
time, and the MoM, as soon as they realize that Voldemort is back (some 
place in the middle of book 6, but what I've observed this far) are 
going to go back to their brutal methods. Which is exaclty what MAGIC 
DISHWASHER  says that has been happening all along. This time, however, 
Harry will be old enough to see it. Or maybe not. We'll just have to 
wait for OoP to see how it fits the theory. I'm quite confident it will 
fit well, though.

I believe that the series will not end in a big, open confrontation 
between both sides, but that, thanks to some clever planning from 
Dumbledore's side (which by then, since he may be dead, will may have 
been taken over by the master strategist Ron Weasley) will face 
Voldemort and Harry, with conditions manipulated so that Harry *can* 
win (on the metahthinking side, the fight will be difficult and heroic 
and nearly impossible, in an appropiate summun point of the series, but 
Harry will win thanks to his intelligence and planning, not due to some 
wild chance, even if some is involved).

On a side note completely, I wonder what JKR will think of to stop 
Voldemort from using his old inmortality spells again on himself? (you 
know, the ones that made it poossible for him to survive a rebounded 
AK). This can tunr into a *very* long series if Voldemort just keeps 
turning into Vapour!Voldemort every time he's beaten.

Hope that helps,

Grey Wolf