DISHWASHER/SPYGAMES
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Jun 20 14:26:48 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 40103
Pippin:
> Ultimately, SPYGAMES leaves us back where we started, with
a battle of good vs. evil. Voldemort plans to allow Harry to
escape the graveyard because he, Voldemort, is not willing to
face death. Harry is going to win, not because Dumbledore has
been more clever than Voldemort, but because unlike
Voldemort, Harry and his friends don't consider their personal
survival the highest cause.>>
To which Grey Wolf enquires as to the origin of the acronym
SPYGAMES and how it differs from MAGIC DISHWASHER.
How's this?
L.E.C.A.R.R.E. S.P.Y.G.A.M.E.S.: Lest Evil Conquer, Arrange Rat
Rescue. Eluding Sirius, Pliable Yeoman Got Away; Machinations
Ensured Security
Pip's theory as presented in her posts does not posit a MAGIC
DISHWASHER at all. Dumbledore acts because Voldemort has
broken the stalemate by plotting with Malfoy. It is irrelevant
whether Voldemort's aim of invulnerable immortality actually can
be achieved. Dumbledore probably thinks it can't, IMO. No Dark
Wizard has ever achieved it, there being no invulnerable Dark
Wizards currently existing. Any formula or potion to produce such
an effect must therefore be untried, untested and rife with
unintended consequences and side effects. Then there's the
unicorns' blood curse--maybe his new body doesn't need it to
survive, but how long do you think Voldemort can lay off the
sauce? Anyone who would risk killing unicorns under Albus
Dumbledore's nose is probably addicted.
The MAGIC DISHWASHER does sidesstep the little problem with
Dobby, who tells Harry outright that Voldemort in his current form
had nothing to do with Malfoy's diary plot. He ought to know, I
think.
Grey Wolf:
>>If you want to take this to the metathinking game of what JKR
wants to tell us, do so. It's outside the sphere of influence of
MAGIC DISHWASHER, as I've said so many times before. <<
It's not meta-thinking at all, IMO. Dumbledore takes great pains
to make sure that Harry adopts the methods and principles of
Gryffindor rather than Slytherin. Indeed some of the list have
complained vocally that Dumbledore doesn't miss a chance to
make Slytherin look bad. Obviously Dumbledore wants to
develop Harry's courage and chivalry, not teach him to scheme.
Grey Wolf:
>>Harry will win thanks to his intelligence and planning, not due
to some wild chance, even if some is involved).<<
When have intelligence and planning proved decisive in Harry's
battles with the Dark Side? Hermione says it herself: friendship
and bravery are more important than books and cleverness.
Again, that's not meta thinking. Dumbledore clearly wants the
Trio to believe this. That's not to say that Dumbledore doesn't
believe in intelligent planning. Yet his action in awarding Neville
the ten points that put Gryffindor over the top makes it clear that
he values chivalry and bravery more.
Dumbledore deliberately arranges to present himself as a role
model for Harry. There are plenty of people Dumbledore could
have trusted to rescue Harry from the Dursleys and pick up the
stone, but he chooses Hagrid, who never misses a chance to
tell Harry what a great man Dumbledore is. I don't think
Dumbledore would do that if he wasn't trying to live up to the
Gryffindor ideal himself.
Grey Wolf:
>>On a side note completely, I wonder what JKR will think of to
stop Voldemort from using his old inmortality spells again on
himself? (you know, the ones that made it poossible for him to
survive a rebounded AK). <<
Some of the magical transformations Voldemort went through
are irreversible--he comes back as Snakeface, not Tom Riddle.
He's not the same being he was when he began so he can't
duplicate the initial conditions of his experiments.
Pippin
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