[HPforGrownups] Re: Why the Order of the Phoenix?

[Richard Thorp]

No: HPFGUIDX 45592

Saturday, October 19, 2002, 6:56:30 AM, Vinnia wrote:

>> 5)  Order of the Phoenix - Secret organization created
>> by, and for the explicit use of, a newly resurrected
>> Voldemort. A new name for a new wave of destruction
>> that will wash across the WW.

Strongly disagree with this.. Phoenixes are portrayed as noble and
good birds in the books, Fawkes being the obvious (only :) example.

Personally I think this is going to be the name of the "War Council"
(for want of a better name) that I believe Dumbledore will set up...

VC> What if the order of Phoenix is not a group of people
VC> at all? 

Interesting.. Although I still believe the above (will explain below
:)

VC> I believe in book 5, Harry would face Voldemort once
VC> again, and the very thing that saves Harry would be
VC> the fact that his phoenix feather is from a different
VC> lifecycle with Voldemorts. Hence the order of phoenix
VC> effect.
VC> Well, thats my two cents. 

Very interesting! :) Good thinking :)

Now to outline my theory quickly...
As has happened in history, and in many a book, I believe that
Dumbledore will create a rebel government... This (to me) seems to be
the exact way that he (and the Hogwarts faculty) are headed at the end
of GoF, with their almost open disdain for Fudge and the MoM...

As above, I believe that the Order of the Phoenix will be the name for
this rebellion, which will eventually usurp the actual government.
Reasoning behind this is that the Ministry is coming to the end of its
usefulness, evidenced by Fudge's complete inability to see or believe
the obvious, that Voldemort is back. Dumbledore and co. will take it
upon themselves to fix the whole problem, which will eventually lead
to the Order of the Phoenix.

Hope I'm not stepping on anyones toes with that one :)

IMO I expect the series to progress in a similar fashion to the Star
Wars: New Jedi Order series of books, in which (speaking as vaguely as
possible) an invasion occurs and the government completely igores and
underestimates the threat, and eventually collapses. The NJO is a good
read if you're at all interested in Star Wars, by the way :)

Sorry for going kinda OT there, d'oh :)

-Rich
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