Comments- open subjects (re: Hagrid's wand, )
finwitch
finwitch at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 9 12:16:01 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 55006
> bboy_mn:
> Let's look at magic fiction in general, wizards and witches of all
> fictional forms all seem to have some magical or enchanted object
that
> they use to focus their magic when casting spells, charms, and/or
> curses. Lord of the Rings and many other wizards use a staff, the
> wizard's wand of course is extremely common, less common are
talisman,
> charms (physical charms like medalions), magic gems, or other magic
> objects.
> So the point is that an enchanted umbrella could in itself be
> used and a device to focus magic. It need not have a broken wand in
> it. And the possibility of tranforming the wand into an umbrella is
> just as possible. So I'm in agreement, that could very well be what
> happened. Although, personally, I lean more toward the repaired
wand.
> Hopefully, before Hagrid dies, we will find out.
Me (Finwitch):
Not in all fiction a word or gesture works too, sometimes. There are
certain stories, like Soprano Sorceress, where *music* is the magic -
sorceress sings words to act. Another is where a boy is rewarder of
sparing a life with a special word than enables him to command
anything to go his way... Objects are sometimes additional, sometimes
related to another type of magic than the basic story, sometimes the
only magic... But well, in HP-world, magic can and has been done
without any magical objects, but it's easier to control with the
objects - unless it's a house-elf doing it...
Sure, Hagrid's umbrella is or contains his broken wand; Why else
would he grasp to it tightly at Ollivanders? He uses the umbrella
like a wizard would use a wand. Hagrid's wand was broken, but I don't
think that snapping of a wand is automatical part of expelling. In
Hagrid's case, there was endangering lives involved - something that
would have sent an adult to Azkaban.
But in cases where Harry's recieved threat of expelling - Hoovering
Charm in his house; Flying the Car(of which Mr Weasly got a fine)-
like, well - things where an adult would get nothing or fine, I doubt
they'd snap a wand.
-- Finwitch
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