Comments- open subjects (re: Hagrid's wand, )

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 9 12:16:01 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 55006


> bboy_mn:
> Let's look at magic fiction in general, wizards and witches of all
> fictional forms all seem to have some magical or enchanted object 
that
> they use to focus their magic when casting spells, charms, and/or
> curses. Lord of the Rings and many other wizards use a staff, the
> wizard's wand of course is extremely common, less common are 
talisman,
> charms (physical charms like medalions), magic gems, or other magic
> objects.
> So the point is that an enchanted umbrella could in itself be
> used and a device to focus magic. It need not have a broken wand in
> it. And the possibility of tranforming the wand into an umbrella is
> just as possible. So I'm in agreement, that could very well be what
> happened. Although, personally, I lean more toward the repaired 
wand.
> Hopefully, before Hagrid dies, we will find out.

Me (Finwitch):
Not in all fiction a word or gesture works too, sometimes. There are 
certain stories, like Soprano Sorceress, where *music* is the magic - 
sorceress sings words to act. Another is where a boy is rewarder of 
sparing a life with a special word than enables him to command 
anything to go his way... Objects are sometimes additional, sometimes 
related to another type of magic than the basic story, sometimes the 
only magic... But well, in HP-world, magic can and has been done 
without any magical objects, but it's easier to control with the 
objects - unless it's a house-elf doing it...

Sure, Hagrid's umbrella is or contains his broken wand; Why else 
would he grasp to it tightly at Ollivanders? He uses the umbrella 
like a wizard would use a wand. Hagrid's wand was broken, but I don't 
think that snapping of a wand is automatical part of expelling. In 
Hagrid's case, there was endangering lives involved - something that 
would have sent an adult to Azkaban.

But in cases where Harry's recieved threat of expelling - Hoovering 
Charm in his house; Flying the Car(of which Mr Weasly got a fine)- 
like, well - things where an adult would get nothing or fine, I doubt 
they'd snap a wand.

-- Finwitch






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