Pettigrew WAS: Harry/Voldemort showdown in 2 years

[Arya]

No: HPFGUIDX 77899

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, House Yolande <soleta_nf at y...> 
wrote:
> Arya said:
> > SNIP
> > I think this is a possibility because I see Peter as being made to go with 
Voldemort, at least to the house at Godric's Hollow to show him the location  
and break the charm (yes, I know he could have written it down, but I think 
Volde would make him come along).  Peter then could have witnessed  
everything and after it was all done, have retreived the wand (maybe he even 
has other wands-- Lily's and James'???)
> 
> > Also, it is evident that Voldemort has his wand back in GoF, after Peter 
returned to him and was with him.  I am pretty certain that Fallen Voldemort 
could not possess and wield a wand so someone had to have saved it from 
the wrecjkage at GH and then given it back to him by the beginning of GoF 
(when the wand is used to kill Frank Bryce).  There are only two options: 
Crouch and Wormtail (or anyone of several ESE:  Snape, etc).  As Crouch is 
dead and gone, I see Wormtail as the most likely candidate.  
> 
> Then Ravenclaw Bookworm said: 
> 
> > A good explanation for how Voldemort got his wand back, too.
> 
> > This could also tie into the theory that Frank Longbottom witnessed the 
attack on the Potters.  (Cross reference: thread starting with #77595 / 
Witness to LV attack on Harry at Godric's Hollow).  If both Pettigrew and 
Frank Longbottom witnessed the attack, that would explain why the Death 
Eaters thought the Longbottoms knew where Voldemort was - Pettigrew 
would have told them he saw Frank there.  
> Possibly Pettigrew hid so that Frank didn't see him, but he saw Frank.
> 
> And Yolande responds:
>  
> But if Pettigrew used Voldemort's wand, then wouldn't the Muggle victims of 
that attack have emerged from the wand at the end of The Goblet of Fire 
along with Harry's parents, Cedric, et al? Everyone who had died through the 
use of that wand emerged from it, starting with the most recent deaths. The 
scene with Sirius and Pettigrew happened after Harry's parents died; 
therefore, the Muggle victims would have come out of the wand before them, 
if in fact the wand had been used. Since they did not, it seems to me that this 
is solid proof that Pettigrew did not use Voldemort's wand. What do you 
think?
>  
> Yolande
> 
ME: (Arya again)
I say that if the spel that Pettigrew cast with the wand was like a reducter 
curse or some other thing that just 'blew up the street' and only killed people 
as a result of the explosion, then, no we would not see all these people 
coming out of the wand.  We see people who were killed directly by the killing 
curse.  
During Priori Incantatum, we see the solvery hand that voldemort conjured for 
Peter, we hear the screams of those tortured under the cruciatus and we see 
the shadows of those killed by the killing curse.  Every spell there is probably 
doesn't have a reverse effect to see-- for example, what would you see for 
Wigardium Leviosa or for alohamora?  Whatever it was that Peter may have 
cast that day when Sirius was apprehended, I think it very plausible that it 
didn't have a Priri Incantatum efffect for us to see or one that Harry noticed.  

Arya