[HPforGrownups] Re: Time-Travel- why Harry *can* save himself (was: POA Dementor Kiss on Harry)

Carolina silmariel at telefonica.net
Wed Aug 27 19:18:50 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 78980

 Steve:
> In the linear, unbiased, neutral timeline at the one and only
> time 9:00PM occurred, both Harry and Hermione, and time travel
> Harry and Hermione are there. Since TT!Harry is there, having
> arrived at 9pm, he is there and available at approx 11:30pm to
> save himself from the Dementors.

9:00 PM only  happens once, but the events taking place at 9:00 
change. Before HH went back in time, there was not footsteps, later 
it changed so timeline changed to include HH footsteps. We only see 
the changed version of events, wich include footsteps.

> From the perceived passing of
> time and in biological time, Harry and Hermione experience 9pm
> twice, but that is a perception that is relative to their point
> of view.

One linear unbiased neutral timeline, multiple instances, what 
Talisman said. Hermione ages, that's clear, I don't see how it 
contradicts multiple instances.

> Harry was always there because he arrived at 9pm in the linear
> unbiased timeline; saving himself occurred after 9pm.

Harry couldn't have arrived at 9pm if dementorized.

Christy:
<< You've killed yourself, and therefore, changed the future. You no 
longer exist, so you die, along with your past self. The future is 
changed, based upon that event, so everything from that point 
onward changes.>>

<< This could get pretty messy, when one starts to consider all the
events that then must change due to your never existing. And all
this would start to happen instantly.>>

And one thing that would happen is you don't die, because there is 
no future-self to kill you after you are dead. As you die, all your 
future actions vanish, killing included. What I don't know is how 
the mage can remember, to know better than to kill himself the 
second time.

silmariel





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