[HPforGrownups] Spymaster without Dishwasher

[Becky Walkden]

No: HPFGUIDX 51850

 
 "pippin_999 <foxmoth at qnet.com>" <foxmoth at qnet.com> wrote:

Melody:
consider Karkaroff:

"He did a deal with the Ministry of Magic," said Sirius bitterly."He 
said he'd seen the error of his ways, and then he named 
names...he put a load of other people in Azkaban in his place..." 
--GoF ch. 19

"Why do you think Karkaroff fled tonight? We both felt the Mark 
burn. We both knew he had returned. Karkaroff fears the Dark 
Lord's vengeance. He betrayed too many of his fellow Death 
Eaters to be sure of a welcome back into the fold." --GoF, ch. 36

But we see in the Pensieve chapter that Karkaroff named only 
one name, Rookwood, and it wasn't enough to get him out of 
Azkaban. He was on his way back there when the scene faded 
out. And Rookwood's name led, as far as we can tell from 
Dumbledore's memories, only to Ludo Bagman  and other 
well-placed wizards  who had no idea that their information was 
getting back to Voldemort.

So why was Karkaroff released? Why is Karkaroff so furious with 
Dumbledore and the Ministry when his student is attacked? 
Does he think that Crouch is  going back on the deal? That he, 
Karkaroff,  is  not receiving the protection he was promised, in 
return for being the person who took credit for putting loads of 
DE's in Azkaban?

Me:  Actually you're putting too much importance out of one setting.  We do not know that these were the only DEs that Karkaroff named.  Only that these were the ones named at that time.  It is very likely that he kept on naming names until he was freed.  One snippet from past events doesn't tell the whole story.

Melody again.
 But Sirius, who has apparently been all through those old trial records Fudge talks about, doesn't know that Karkaroff only outed Rookwood. In fact, it seems that Fudge himself doesn't 
even know that Severus Snape was a DE until his big scene in GoF

We know that Crouch doesn't scruple to use  memory charms 
--could it be that Karkaroff's testimony in the Pensieve scene 
was stricken from the record in a very permanent way?

Suppose that thanks to misinformation, Voldemort  thinks it's Karkaroff who betrayed the DE's and has left them forever. Suppose Dumbledore wants Voldemort to believe  that Snape was loyal enough not to   giveup any names but was too cowardly to seek his Master in Albania or help Quirrell steal the 
Stone?

Now if that's true, it gives Snape a very good motive for his 
behavior in the  Shack which is not about the Rat at all. Snape 
believes that  Sirius and Lupin are DE's, and therefore it's a good 
possibility that one of them might be able to out him as a DE 
too...and he's desperate to make sure they don't. *That's* why he 
won't allow them to talk.

Me  Sorry but that doesn't quite make sense either because we learned very well that Snape was once a follower of Voldemort.  This is not secret information at all.  Please note that when Snape showed the mark, nobody was surprised he had it.  The only thing the imbaccile Fudge was bothered about was the fact that it was all of a shudden so prominent which was a contridiction to his attempts to pretend that Voldemort wasn't back.  If the fact that his teacher was once a DE was supposed to be a surprise to Dumbledore then he WOULD have acted surprised at this revalation.  He didn't react strongly at all which means he wasn't pretending ignorance of this fact. 

Now it IS possible that Snape can work into Voldemorts good graces again.  But his motavations in the Shriking Shack were far more personal then anything else I think.  Hatred can lead to irrational blindness to the true situation regardless of whether his motavations are good or not. It's nice Snape has so many defenders.  He is not an wholly evil man agreed.  He will possibly play a major role for good before he's through.  Who knows?  Maybe even sacraficing himself.  But he ain't no saint either.  I've even read people argue he only treats Harry that bad as an act.  However, when he first laid eyes on Harry the first time, Harry's scar started throbbing.  That only happens as a result of extreme animosity.  Huggs Becky




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