Spymaster without Dishwasher

[pippin_999 <foxmoth@qnet.com>]

No: HPFGUIDX 51875

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Becky Walkden 
<runningbecky2002 at y...> wrote:

>>   Sorry but that doesn't quite make sense either because we 
learned very well that Snape was once a follower of Voldemort.  
This is not secret information at all.  Please note that when 
Snape showed the mark, nobody was surprised he had it.  The 
only thing the imbaccile Fudge was bothered about was the fact 
that it was all of a shudden so prominent which was a 
contridiction to his attempts to pretend that Voldemort wasn't 
back.  If the fact that his teacher was once a DE was supposed 
to be a surprise to Dumbledore then he WOULD have acted 
surprised at this revalation.  He didn't react strongly at all which 
means he wasn't pretending ignorance of this fact. <<


Where do you find it established, outside the Pensieve, that 
people knew Snape was a follower of Voldemort?  
Sirius says

"I can't see him letting Snape teach at Hogwarts if he'd ever 
worked for Voldemort" --GoF ch 27

It was announced at Karkaroff's trial, but the gist of my post was 
that the trial was secret and those present were prevented from 
talking about it--perhaps even memory charmed.  Sirius doesn't 
know  about Snape. He can't look surprised when Snape reveals 
the mark because he's in Dog form. As for the others present, I 
think that they probably were surprised, but Harry didn't take note 
of their reactions--he was watching Fudge. 

I would say Fudge reacts the way he does because he doesn't 
recognize the significance of the brand on Snape's arm. 
Obviously he knows the Skull and Serpent is the token of 
Voldemort, but he doesn't know that it was used to mark the 
members of Voldemort's inner circle. If that was common 
knowledge, Snape wouldn't have needed to explain what it was, 
and how it was used. 

I don't think Fudge had  any idea what Snape was talking about.  
He couldn't take it in. Otherwise Fudge would have wanted to 
know whether Barty Crouch Jr had a Dark Mark, too, and they 
could have gone to see, assuming it doesn't disappear when 
your soul is sucked out. 

Becky:
  >>I've even read people argue he only treats Harry that bad as 
an act.  However, when he first laid eyes on Harry the first time, 
Harry's scar started throbbing.  That only happens as a result of 
extreme animosity.  <<

Well, I wouldn't say that Snape's animosity is a total act either. 
But the reason Harry's scar burns that first time is that he's 
looking at the back of Quirrell's head. It's Voldemort's animosity 
that triggers the scar. Other Death Eaters, even Crouch!Moody, 
don't set it off. The pain in Harry's scar grows less from the time 
he leaves Voldemort's presence in GoF, and doesn't get worse 
even when Crouch!Moody is about to kill him.

Pippin