Anatomy of a Rift (Part 1 of 2) LONG
Shauna <wind3213@hotmail.com>
wind3213 at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 19 18:37:39 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 52510
> Has
> Harry ever lied to Ron before? Does Ron know of Harry lying to
others
> in similar cirucumstances?
I don't know exactly what constitues similar circumstances, but
Ron knows that Harry is capable of lying. He knows that Harry
lied to the Dursleys about Sirius. He knows that Harry is willing
to break rules to do what he wants. Of course, those are broken
rules, not personal lies. But the possibility is there.
> > > Ron's reaction as you describe it does not agree with
inherent
> > human
> > > tendencies. People have high resistance to painful facts.
We go
> to
> > > great lengths, expend large amounts of mental energy to
not
> accept
> > > painful facts, even when they are fairly well substantiated.
Ron,
> > on
> > > the other hand, *chooses* to believe something that
causes him
> > pain.
> > > It just doesn't make sense.
Many people do react this way. They're called optimists. Other
people react the opposite way. They're called pessimists. I
know of plenty of people who assume the worst so that they can't
get any more hurt. Ron has shown this tendency. He
automatically assumes Scabbers is dead in the PoA cat/rat fight.
I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head, but the
possibility, at least, is there.
> Dumbledore believes Harry when Harry tells him that he didn't
put his
> name in. Hermione and Hagrid both have no difficulty in
believing him
> either. Of all the people who know Harry intimiately, Ron is the
only
> one who refuses to take his word for it. It seems exactly as
though
> he *does* want to believe in this painful fact.
Let's take a look at Dumbledore, Hagrid, and Hermione, as
compared to Ron. It's worth the time to do so, as according to
you, these are the four people who *should* have believed Harry.
Hagrid ~ The night of the choosing ceremony, the Trio visit
Hagrid at his hut. They spend a great deal of time there
"speculating which of the entrants were likely to be selected as
champions" (p.265). Given that, and the fact that Dumbledore
likely spoke to Hagrid concerning Moody's sinister suggestions
(or perhaps Madame Maxine complained about it), Hagrid would
be much more likely to believe Harry. So he is both inclined to
believe Harry, and has an alternate explanation.
Dumbledore ~ He is both intelligent and a good judge of
character. He doubts Harry enough to ask him whether he tried
to get his name put in the goblet, but given all the available
information and seeing that Harry was telling the truth, he was
both inclined to believe Harry, and had an alternative explanation.
Hermione ~ So far as she knows, Harry had no intention or real
interest in putting his name in the Goblet. Therefore, she sees
no motive for Harry to have done so. Furthermore, when Harry's
name is drawn from the goblet she is better able to register his
own shock, instead of having to deal with her own. (Yes, she is
surprised, but she is not overwhelmed by disapointment,
betrayal, etc.) Given that evidence, she has both the inclination
to believe Harry, as well as the alternative explanation Harry gave
her. (Just as a side note, it is possible that Hermione had
doubts which, upon later deciding they were baseless, she
decided to conceal from Harry.)
Ron ~ As others have mentioned, Ron has spent the past
several days in a climate where Harry has expressed both an
interest (or at least a passive agreement to Ron's interest) in
being the Hogwarts champion. Because he wants to do it so
badly, he has difficulty believing other's wouldn't want to. He and
Harry even discuss how they would do it. So, when Harry's
name is drawn out of the Goblet, he's concentrating on his own
emotions: shock, disappointment, betrayal, etc., instead of really
seeing how surprised Harry is. Furthermore, he is given
evidence that Harry is actually enjoying being the Champion,
whereas Harry offers *nothing* to support his assertions.
So there is a big difference between Dumbledore, Hagrid,
Hermione and Ron. They each have different impressions of
Harry's desire to enter the tournament, they each have different
initial reactions, they each have varying amounts of evidence
within their reach.
> Ron has always been shown as at least as sensitive of Harry's
> feelings and moods as Hermione. But in this case, strangely,
he is
> quite blind to Harry's ongoing stress and misery? Harry has to
throw
> something at him to make him aware that something isn't
right?
Because Harry is always so transparent about his emotions. He
broadcasts them to anyone and everyone, so that even a person
who isn't speaking to him will understand the depths of his
torment.
Hardly. Hermione might be trying to convince Ron that Harry's
miserable, but when does Ron ever listen to Hermione?
Furthermore, the continued attention to Harry paid by the press
and public is hateful to him, but Ron can't see that. Ron would
*love* to get all that attention, so he doesn't see what it's doing to
Harry.
~ Shauna
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