PoA: an explanation of the time/patronus paradox

[sevenhundredandthirteen]

No: HPFGUIDX 67941

Nemi wrote:

> If time works like that in JKR's universe there could be a second 
gunman as 
> it were.  Buckbeak was *always* saved, the patronus was *always* 
cast.  It had 
> to be, just like the ball going into the goal.  But so long as the 
events 
> happened it didn't matter who did it.

<Am I making any sence at all here?


Me:

This is the whole idea of a self-consistent time-travel. It all 
starts with the 'grandfather-paradox.' The idea is, what would happen 
if you went back in time and killed your grandfather before your 
parent was created, therefore you  couldn't be born. But if you 
weren't born then you could never live to the age where you went back 
in time to kill your grandfather  in the first place, therefore, your 
grandfather would have never been killed. Etc, etc, etc. It's a never-
ending loop which doesn't have an answer. So this is why scientists 
came up with the parallel dimension theory- so that everytime you 
travel through time you are put into another world where whatever you 
do in this dimension has no affects whatsoever on any other parallel 
dimension. Esentially- you could kill your grandfather in this 
dimension because it was your grandfather in the *other* dimension 
who caused you to be born.

The other theory is that time is self-consistent- that no matter how 
hard you tried to kill your grandfather, your would keep failing and 
failing again, (because, you are alive- therefore he needs to live).

We can see that in JKR's world- Harry and Hermione etc needed to be 
saved by the Patronus, or else they would never live to go back and 
cast it. On the theory of parallel dimensions- if there was 
no 'person x' (whoever they may be), to save Harry the he would've 
died, so he could never go back to save himself (but you see, he 
wouldn't *need* to go back in time to save himself, as, hewas not 
saved). With the addition of 'person x' Harry was saved by 'x' so 
that Harry may go back into another dimension where 'person x' was 
doing something else, and hence, Harry saves himself.

If Harry is saved he *must be saved everytime* If he had died, he 
*must die everytime.* So, yes, Nemi, you *are* making sense (at least 
to me).

This is why I agree with the idea of one singular plane of time- 
because with only one plane of time Harry is only saved *once.* 
Buckbeak is saved only *once.* So that there is no need for the 'ball 
to go through the goal however it can, but it still goes through 
regardless,' because it only went through once.

~<(Laurasia)>~