[HPforGrownups] re:wizard punishment/Squibs/ApparateatHogwarts/underageMagicUser/#students/Sept1

[T.M. Sommers]

No: HPFGUIDX 70028

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) wrote:
> T.M. Sommers wrote in 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/69856 :
> 
> << However, Azkaban seems to be the only form of punishment 
> available. Hagrid is sent there without even having charges lodged 
> against him. >>
> 
> Azkaban seems to be the only form on IMPRISONMENT available. 

No other punishments are mentioned.

> Hagrid 
> was sent there for preventive detention. 

A distinction without a difference.  He was turned over to the 
dementors not only without a trial, but without being charged.

> We know of at least one 
> other punishment: breaking the person's wand and forbidding them to 
> do magic. 

My understanding is that that was a consequence of his expulsion, 
not a punishment per se.  It is, I think, akin to apparition: you 
can't use magic without the schooling, just as you can't apparate 
without passing the test.  (Fred and George passed their OWLs, so 
they qualified.)

> I believe there is also some mention of fining law-breakers.

You have to find them before you can punish them in any manner.

> << What Malfoy did was wrong. Letting Malfoy get away with what he 
> did would be wrong. Punishing him was not wrong. Think of it as 
> detention: Malfoy was detained for a couple of minutes in a ferret's 
> body. >>
> 
> Detention is not supposed to include being bounced hard from ceiling 
> to floor so as to squeak in pain.

Presumably Malfoy still had his wand pointed at Harry, and was 
about to zap him again when he was ferretized.  Would it have 
been acceptable for Moody to have used Expelliarmus and blasted 
Malfoy across the room?   Or to have Stupefied him?  Those would 
probably have hurt more.