Remus and Tonks

[Susan Smith]

No: HPFGUIDX 70242

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Leandra" 
<nuttersincorporated at h...> wrote:
In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Susan Smith" 
<atroposgryffin at y...> wrote:

<Atropos G.>  Random, this theory is quite old, and not my original 
work.  Credit goes to the Ultimate Unofficial Guide to the 
Mysteries of Harry Potter book.  The theory: Probably because they 
had doubts about Black (the supposed Secret Keeper for the Fidelius 
Charm) there are speculations that the back up precaution was for 
James and Remus to switch identiites using a Switching Spell.  This 
was probably done in secret by Lily and kept secret from even 
Dumbledore.  Voldemort attacked and Lupin (looking like James) was 
killed.  James was now stuck inside Remus' body.  So, as Lupin, James 
is safe (for the moment) from Voldemort who thinks he's dead.
> 
> (Me, Leandra:)
> 
> In my opinion this theroy is a bit farfetched. Why would Lupin 
> conceal his true self from Harry, if he was indeed James?

<ME-A.G.> Just sharing the published items with Random-did not claim 
to buy into all of them.
> 
> About the documentation:
> 
> <snip>
>  
> > 1.  JKR has dropped hints in numerous interviews, etc. that there 
> is something very special about Lupin; 
> <L> yes, he's a werewolf.
> <A.G.>  Sorry even after we all knew that post POA-she still aludes 
to him being special, and she loves his character and critical clues 
were in POA to help us in the remaining books
 
<SNIP> 3.  Chap 10-Harry tells Lupin he hears his mother being 
murdered when Dementors are near-Lupin made " a sudden motion with 
his arm as though to grip Harry's shoulder, but thought better of 
it."  As Lupin, there is no rational reason why he should not grab 
his arm, so  the speculation is as James he is affected by this news 
and trying to control himself.

<L> I think even as Lupin he's deeply touched and trying to control 
> himself. James and Lily were good friends, weren't they?
> 
<A.G.>  Good thoughts-but they are no better or worse than the 
original theory

> > 4.  Chap 11-Trelawney says Lupin "positively fled when I offerred 
> to 
> > crystal gaze for him".  Now, Snape, Dd, and presumably some other 
> > staff, as well as Hermione know he is a werewolf so could he be 
> > hiding more than that?
> 
<L.> Maybe Trelawney doesn't know? Who said everybody knew that Remus 
was a werewolf? Snape knows, of course, after the incident in their 
6th year. Dumbledore knows, because he brought Remus to Hogwarts in 
the first place. Pomfrey knows, because she took care of him as a 
child. I don't think Dumbledore told everybody from the staff about 
Remus' "condition".

<A.G.>  POA, Chap 17 Hermione says "if I'd been a bit cleverer, I'd 
have told everyone what you are!"  "But they already know," said 
Lupin.  "At least, the staff do."  Since he does not say some or 
most, but all we conclude Trelawney knows-plus, she is also a "seer" 
so surely she knows!

<L.>Also, I don't think Remus longs to hear all about his "untimely 
death". He's no masochist... *g*  The rest of the documentation 
doesn't give a single clue if your theory is true. It's simply 
picking lines out of context and reading something into it. At least 
that's my opinion. Of course, it's an interesting theory, but I don't 
think there is even a grain of truth hidden in there.

<A.G.>  Glad I was only the messenger and not the original "Pickee"
but you are right, it is only a theory.  However, it is a very 
popular and widely accepted theory.

As for lines "out of context", "grains of truth", etc.  Almost 90 
percent of the posts on this site use something, anything from Book 1-
5 as support for their theories, so why can't the authors of UUGMHP 
(short name for book) analyze Book 1-4 and do the same?

Thanks for your insight though, it helps me over some of the very 
same difficulties I had with this theory.

Atropos G. 
> Lea