Scar doesn't cut it as H=V

[Doriane]

No: HPFGUIDX 70817


"amanitamuscaria1" :

Why should Harry's scar make him Voldemort's chosen one? I can't see 
how the fact that Voldemort's curse failed means that V has chosen 
Harry as his Nemesis? 

"acoteucla" :

LV's incomplete knowledge of the prophecy told him that either Harry  
or Neville would have the power to bring about his downfall.  For  
whatever reason, he decided that Harry was the one to fear, and 
Neville was just some bimbo.  So at this point, LV has already  
chosen.  He thinks that Harry has the power to be his equal, not  
Neville.  The scar is the "mark" which shows that LV chose Harry.

"amanitamuscaria1" :

Not necessarily so - all it means is that he attacked Harry first. He 
may have had a list of 100 wizard-born children of the right age, 
etc. that he would have gotten around to if Harry hadn't stopped the 
spree. The 'choice' in the scar appears to be not on Voldemort's 
part, or only in that he chose to attack Harry first - maybe he 
didn't even do that, and we simply haven't heard of other magic-born 
children who perhaps died in the general slaughter? - but in Lily 
protecting Harry, and the connection being made that V. attacks the 
Potters, but the boy lives.

Me, Del :

I believe the Prophecy is about Harry, as Harry could take it without 
suffering any damage (but see below for a question that could change 
that). But in my opinion, it was entirely a matter of bad luck on 
Harry's part that he turned out to be the Chosen One. Here's why :

1. DD is the one that says that the choice was either between Harry 
or Neville. But I'm getting VERY wary of DD. After all, "as the 
seventh month dies", or whatever the prophecy says, doesn't 
necessarily mean *exactly* on the 31st of July. It could mean any day 
at the end of July. So there might have been more than 2 kids. And 
for all we know, it might even not have been July that year. Maybe it 
was years later. Maybe the kid isn't even born ? Maybe the Prophecy 
hasn't been fulfilled yet at all ? 

2. But my biggest point is that LV did NOT choose Harry. He only had 
the opportunity to get to Harry first. Both kids were most likely 
protected, and it so happened that Harry's protection was the first 
one to crumble when Pettigrew turned out to be a traitor. So of 
course LV went after him then. But noone knows whether he would not 
have gone after Neville first had he had a choice. Once again, we 
have only DD's word on that one : HE is the one who says that LV 
chose Harry over Neville. But *I* say LV only had a chance to get at 
Harry first, period. No choice, just bad luck on Harry's side.

> There's so much we don't know about the timing of the day, where 
> major characters were and what they were doing; and all our 
> information is filtered through a very few sources who may have 
> their own agendas.

Another instance of JKR not giving us crucial information just to 
keep us in the dark. Oh well...

Ah ! One question that could change everything I said : how does the 
protection on the prophecies work ? Is it the people it talks about 
that are allowed to touch it, or is it the people whose names are on 
the title ? In other words, can Harry touch it because the Prophecy 
is about him, or can he touch it because his name is on the 
description of the prophecy ? Because then maybe it wouldn't be about 
him at all and he could still touch it...

Del