The possibility of a gay character (WAS: Snape: The fact that he exists)

[kiricat2001]

No: HPFGUIDX 71250

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Trevor Peterson <laxer26 at y...> 
wrote:
> As dreambeliever said, this topic is getting ridiculous.  What i 
see happening here is people deciding that there must be a gay 
character somewhere in the books.  Once people decide that there must 
be a character who is gay in the book, finding someone who fits the 
description is fairly easy.  It is like the witch hunts (yes pun 
intended) of the middle ages.  As JKR put it, the people were bad at 
telling who was a witch.  They used sterotypes and were wrong 
frequently.  Same thing with the gay issue.  people decide who is and 
who isnt gay, and frequently dont bother asking the person.  
therefore the person is put into the gay box.  That is really what i 
see happening here.  "Sirius and Lupin must be gay because they 
imbraced".  earlier, I think i was told to be more "mature" and not 
to go "no no no dont show us *that* ".  I thow the mature issue back 
into your teeth.  If you are really so mature, you should be mature 
enough to handle two men (or women for that matter) embracing
>  without immediately deciding that they are gay.  why not just 
assume that JKR is telling the truth through harry and saying what is 
really happening? why dont you trust her?  Lets look at the scene.  
Lupin aparently thought that Sirius was responsible for james's 
death.  Also we know that Sirius, james Lupin and peter were best 
friends.  as in they were best friends.  as in of course they loved 
each other.  It is just not in a sexual way.  That is typically why 
people are best friends.  they *love* being around each other.  
People can love their parents.  thats not a sexual love.  they can 
love their family.  thats not a sexual love.  So sirius and lupin 
embrace.  they havent seen each other for 12 years minimum.  so when 
sirius embraces lupin i dont think that it is something that is too 
out of the ordinary.  To me, it seems that a lot of the people are 
looking for complex explanation for a simple act of affection, for 
which there is a simple, canonical explanation.  Lupin now
>  knows that Sirius is not to blame, so they are once again on the 
same side.  the embrace is similar to a welcoming or greeting 
embrace.  sure is is not so common now, but how things take place in 
our world shouldnt be a reason with this book.  
> People have also made the argument that because lupin lives at 
blacks house, they must be a couple.  Or perhaps, because Lupin is a 
member of the Order, and his status as a werewolf makes if hard for 
him to get a job and make money, and therefore it is hard to earn a 
living, and so he lives at the Order's HQ.  Like the Weaselys would 
have if anything happened to the parents.  
>  
> finally all of these assumptions are based on pretty hurtful 
sterotypes, and personally, i dont think that she would choose 
sterotypical traits to show who is/is not gay.  that is just the feel 
i get from her writing.  Ultimately people will read what they want 
into characters in any book.  because all of the relationship stuff 
is pretty subjective, just leave it to the fanfic community
>  

You know, I don't like the TBAY posts.  I know the people who write 
them put a great deal of thought and time into them.  There seems to 
be a segment of the list that enjoys reading and/or writing them. I 
see the heading TBAY, and I skip right over them.  And, it doesn't 
bother me in the least that those posts show up.  

I've also stopped reading the James-Remus switch thread because it 
just doesn't make sense to me, no matter how passionately people 
argue for it. 

And, is Hermione going to end up with Ron or Harry?  I don't care.  I 
skip those posts, too.  

So, if the discussions on whether or not certain characters are gay 
is not of interest to you, pass those posts right by.  At least 
people are identifying that that's what they're talking about right 
there in the subject line.  It's a topic that may be ridiculous to 
you, but obviously it isn't to other people.

Marianne