First meetings; Poor poor Slytherin at the House Cup

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 71403

Just when I think I'm out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!

 
> > And while Hagrid certainly is guilty of exaggeration, it is not 
> > logical to assume he would lie about the very house V-Mort was in. Such 
things can be  easily
> > checked.
> 
> ok, let's look in the hogwarts records... hmm, 19th-20th century... 
> T... U... V... Ve, Vi, Vo.... no "Voldemort, Lord" listed. How easily 
> checked, again?

Or... snarky. :) He could have asked D-Dore.

 
> If Sirius _was_ in Slytherin, _THERE_ is your no-longer-mythical 
> "Post-Riddle Good Slytherin". Kinda knocks out your downward spiral 
> theory, doesn't it? and if Sirius was slytherin, so are James and Lupin 
> (and Pettigrew, but that's neither here nor there), since why would 
> they be such close friends if in different houses, especially if one of 
> the houses in question is Slytherin?

Not at all. I've said all along that as further revelations come out, information 
has to be re-evaluated. If Sirius was in Slytherin - and Snape, who we are 
almost certain was Slytherin, remains good - then of course the Post-Riddle 
Good Slytherin theory goes away.

Which just goes to show that courageous people with backbones can 
overcome all that Slytherin propaganda. Too bad they are few and far 
between in Slytherin. 


> > But, for the moment, let's assume  that all were in Gryffindor, 
> > notwithstanding
> > the questions about Sirius.
> 
> Either hagrid is a liar or sirius is a post-riddle good slytherin... 
> interesting dilemma you have for your theories, eh?

Nah, I'm nothing if not flexible. Hagrid is an exaggerator at best. The vast 
majority of dark wizards we've seen still came from House Slytherin. In fact, 
there is only one we've seen that we are fairly sure isn't, and that is Pettigrew.

> > So, had Harry been armed with all the information, I submit he still 
> > chooses
> > Gryffindor 100 times out of 100.
> 
> No longer believing a false absolute, he might just let the Hat choose 
> for him, which would end up with him in, of course, Slytherin.

Oh please. First, if Hagrid had told him about Sirius, it wouldn't have been a 
false absolute, because Hagrid would have told him otherwise. "They are bad 
eggs, except for this one guy, who was a bad egg anyway"

So, the knowledge that ONE Gryffindor -- who came from a family of 
Slytherins, by the way -- turned into a bad wizard would have been enough to 
completely clear Harry's head of any doubts about his parents' killer, the 
Malfoys, the fact that Ron's family was in Gryffindor and his OWN family was in 
Gryffindor.

And he would have said, "Ah, hat, you do it."

And then again, the Hat merely said, "You'd do well in Slytherin." Not, "You're 
going to Slytherin unless you speak up now, boy!"

We have no evidence the Hat wouldn't have done the Gryff thing anyway.

Darrin
-- Now I'm gone.