Snape and Lucius Malfoy (Was:More Snape conundrums...)

[snapeschambers]

No: HPFGUIDX 71975

Wow...a very well-thought-out theory...might I suggest an acronym?

T.W.I.N. L.A.P.D.O.G.S. (To Win INvulnerability, Lucius And Potions-
master Deal Over Guarded Secrets)

--SC

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "bookraptor11" 
<DMCourt11 at c...> wrote:
> > Allie asked (about Snape):
> 
> > > - Similarly, WHY is he still friends with Lucius?
> 
> and Kai replied (snipping):
> Also, if Snape is
> truly a spy, then it would be in the best interest of the Order for
>  him to maintain ties to Lucius. Either way, their seemingly good
>  relationship now implies to me that Lucius probably didn't 
know     
> about Snape's role as double agent during Voldemort's first rise. 
> Unless Lucius too is playing a complicated game.
> 
> Donna:
> I've read a lot of posts wondering how Snape could return to 
> Voldemort without being killed, and posts that offer theories that 
> Snape goes to Lucius instead and fools him into believing Snape 
was 
> working as a double agent for Voldemort. Snape either continues 
> spying now using info he tricks out of Lucius, or he gets Lucius 
to 
> convince Voldemort to restore him to V's good graces and is spying 
> directly as a DE again. I have a theory that Snape is using Lucius 
in 
> a more complicated way.
> 
> I see Malfoy as much more interested in what's best for Malfoy 
than 
> interested in either side.  He may have joined Voldemort because V 
> shared his purist beliefs, promised Malfoy power, was too powerful 
to 
> resist, or Malfoy was hoping to be nearby when V learned the 
secret 
> of immortality so that he could kill V before he could use this 
and 
> steal immortality for himself. Any or all combinations of the 
above. 
> 
> He also realized he'd need a plan if V was defeated, and decided 
that 
> simplest was best.  He would claim he'd been under the imperius 
curse 
> and brazen it out. Of course his old family name and connections 
(and 
> old family money) would help. We know this worked, he walked 
because  
> Dumbledore and the MOM couldn't prove he was acting of his own 
free 
> will.
> 
> Now Voldemort is back and Lucius is looking to play both sides. 
Enter 
> Snape who visits him (that errand at the end of GOF). He might 
have 
> said something like: "Now the Dark Lord is back and is not very 
> pleased with me. I didn't desert him, I was spying on Dumbledore 
and 
> feeding him minor information on V's plans to make him trust me. 
I've 
> stayed close to him all these years and have information that you 
can 
> pass on to Lord Voldemort to show my good faith."
> 
> Malfoy can believe this or not; it's more important that he buys 
what 
> Snape says next. "I can't get Dumbledore to mention anything about 
> the prophecy, but it's occured to me that when there are two 
factions 
> warring, those who come out on top are those who can convince each 
> side that they are on their side. Perhaps we can work together. 
You 
> pass my info to the Dark Lord, try to get him to take me back, and 
I 
> in turn will work on Dumbledore. I will tell him that you went 
back 
> to V out of fear but you're disgusted and are willing to turn 
double 
> agent, passing anything you learn through me. Hopefully, no matter 
> which side wins we'll both be alive when one of us will need to 
vouch 
> for the other. If you try to claim the imperius curse again, well 
> that's wearing a little thin by now, don't you think?"
> 
> This gives Malfoy a vested interest in keeping Snape alive, and 
> allows Snape to get information for the Order either through 
Malfoy 
> or directly as reinstated Snape. It might also explain why the 
> DE's went a little easy on the kids in the DOM; Malfoy was leading 
> them. Someday it might be very important evidence that he was 
working 
> for Dumbledore and tried his best to shed as little blood as 
> possible.  If he hadn't been captured he could have explained his 
> lack of ruthlessness to V by saying he didn't want to alienate 
> purebloods who were still undecided by killing pureblood children.
> 
> The best part of this is that it works whether you believe Snape 
is 
> truly working for good (only passing minor info that's been 
cleared 
> by D),  semi-evil Snape who, like Lucius, is only 
> interested in his own survival though would prefer Voldemort dead, 
> and evil Snape, who has rejoined V and has no intention of passing 
> anything significant on to D.
> 
> Donna
> trying to think like a Slytherin and apologising if anyone has 
> already posted a similar theory. I tried to check any post that 
> mentioned Lucius Malfoy.