HRH and their Prefect badges

[Arya]

No: HPFGUIDX 72117

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "jenny_ravenclaw" 
<meboriqua at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greatelderone" 
> <greatelderone at y...> wrote:
>  
> > Just because I say that the fellow is immature and isn't 
deserving 
> of the badge does not mean I'm a "Ron-basher".>
> 
> Actually, that is exactly what you are, but that's okay.  I 
admitted 
> that I can't stand Hagrid and it's true.  I hate him.  You can 
admit 
> that you don't like Ron and that maybe, just maybe it is swaying 
your 
> opinion of who he is in the series.
> 
> Okay, there is just too much confusing snipped material here for me 
to 
> snip again and respond to so I'll just make some general comments.
> 
> First, why in the world do you insist that the prefect position 
should 
> be taken away from Ron and *now* given to Harry?  Can you please 
> please please show me, using canon and not your own opinions, where 
in 
> the book Ron failed so badly at being a prefect?  Contemplating 
buying 
> firewhiskey isn't enough for me, so sorry.
> 
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Reasons that may make a case for why Ron could lose his prefect badge:
1.  Inability and reluctance to perform duties ascribed to prefects.  
He was not willing to enforce rules he was responsible to uphold such 
as those that Fred and George were breaking.  Even when Hermione only 
wanted him to stand beside her to give her moral support, Ron refused 
and stayed away from it.  
2.  Engaged in maliscious attacks upon other students and fellow 
prefects.  Granted, it was against Malfoy and his gang but he led 
both a revolt against them in Umbridge's office when Harry and 
Hermione were leading the Evil One into the forest.  Also, Ron was 
involved with other unnamed DA members in the hexing of 
Draco/Crabbe/Goyle on the train returning from Hogwarts.  (No, you 
cannot just make a case that they were defending Harry, because many 
of the hexes and curses used were not meant to only impede or hinder 
or prevent attack but to form a counter attack and ended with them 
being unconscious.  
3.  Inability to prevent Harry from leaving the school and going to 
the Ministry.  Yes, Hermione also is guilty of this.  However, Ron is 
the one who has the pattern of not considering the responsibilities 
ascribed to him as a prefect.  

Overall, I think Ron is just happy about the badge because of the 
status symbol it connotes and he is eager to use the little power it 
grants to his own end and amusement (wait until I get Malfoy).  Ron 
acts no differently than he did when he was not a prefect and this is 
a problem.  He still follows Harry and whatever he wants.  Ron 
demonstrates he is incapable of indenpendant thought (unless you 
count the attack by a brain). Harry, on the other hand, would see the 
responsibility as just that-- something to live up to and something 
to consider with every decision he makes at school.  This is why 
Dumbledore thought it would weight too much on Harry's mind and 
conscious but it is also why Harry would make an ideal prefect.  When 
Dumbledore named Ron a prefect over Harry, Dumbledore chose to serve 
Harry the person over serving the school and Gryffindor house.  

I admit it-- I hate Ron and hope he dies early in book 6 but I do 
have my reasons.  Poo.

Arya