New Angle on the prophecy Neville and Harry.

lupinwolf2001 lupinwolf2001 at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 22 01:26:41 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72166

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lupinwolf2001"
> <lupinwolf2001 at y...> wrote:
> > ... could give some proof to the argument that the prophecy 
pertains
> to Neville instead of Harry.
> > 
> > Many (Dumbledore included) have concluded that Harry is the 
chosen 
> > one becuase of the scar on his head (which defeated Voldemort 
> > initially) and thus Voldemort CHOSE Harry as his equal.
> > 
> > ...edited...
> > 
> > I submit that Voldemort's mistake/Harry's scar doesn't 
necessarily 
> > mean that the choice has been made YET!
> > 
> > ...edited...
> > 
> > Now, this (the prophecy) does not say WHEN the dark lord would 
mark
> > him as an equal.  It does not say that the curse/scar he laid on 
> > Harry WAS the mark fortold. Neville could VERY well be marked 
LATER 
> > by voldemort (maybe intentionally). 
> > 
> > ..edited..
> > 
> > And the thoughts that maybe NEITHER can survive while the other
> > lives gives us the reality that Harry WILL live... But Neville 
and 
> > Voldemort (true to the prophecy) will not as Neville sacrifices 
> > himself in the interest of vanquishing Voldemort.
> 
> 
> bboy_mn:
> Who cowers in front of his monitor and sees the List Troll raising
> their club, sees the List Elf raising their magical fingers, sees 
the
> List Wizard pointing their wands threateningly, and see a Howler 
being
> tie to an owl's leg, because about all I have to say is... I agree 
(I
> now quickly duck behind my monitor).
> 
> For a posts that parallels your post nicely, see-
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/70692
> 
> Neville is just too far in the front of this story for him to be
> insignificant in the end, but his role is so unclear. It could very
> well be that in the end it is Neville who is the equal and who 
perhaps
> dies defeating Voldemort.
> 
> As far as the 'Mark', I agree we don't necessarily know the Harry's
> mark is THE mark. And we do not know that the mark is a physical 
mark,
> it could be abstract or metaphorical. 
> 
> In a sense, if Voldemort comments out loud that it is Neville he is
> afraid of, then he has 'mark' Neville with his word, as in-
> 
> "Mark my words, the Neville Longbottom is nothing but trouble. If 
sure
> he is the one I have to worry about."
> 
> Check out that other thread.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> bboy_mn


Thanks BBoy_mn!

That was a great post and put it into much better 
words/rationalization! Im just sorry if I stepped on your toes with 
my post. Again, I didnt' mean to attempt to steal any thunder 
(although in reading the 2 I don't know if that would be possible). 
Again, GREAT post and great articulation! Sorry again for coming with 
this so far behind you!





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