Umbridge, dementors, spy in Order?

lorien_eve natmichaels at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 23 19:53:28 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 72645

This isn't exactly on-topic for this discussion, but what they 
hey.....I'm only on my second reading of OOtP (yes, I'm slow), so I 
could have very well forgotten this if it was mentioned, but do we 
ever get a *good* reason why Umbridge set the Dementor's after 
Harry? I supposed it was just to further discredit him, like the MoM 
and Daily Prophet had been doing all summer, but this seems like a 
really lame reason. Did I miss something?

Lorien_Eve


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "corinthum" <kkearney at s...> 
wrote:
> Caroline asked:
> 
> > > ... it  seems a bit of an amazing coincidence that the 
> > > dementors turn up 
> > > near Privet Drive just as Mundungus Fletcher hears about some 
dodgy 
> > > cauldrons...
> > > So unless Umbridge is bugging the Order's HQ, presumably 
impossible
> > > (from outside), how has she got this information? Is there a 
spy 
> > > reporting
> > > to Fudge and/or LV?
> > > Have so far failed to come up with a likely candidate 
> 
> And Liz replied:
> 
> > I don't believe that Umbridge knew Harry was being watched, but 
I 
> > know someone that I do believe knew that.  That person works at 
the 
> > Ministry and got pretty close to Umbridge.  He also most likely 
had
> > or had access to -- a load of cauldrons.  You see, he had spent 
a 
> > good deal of time researching the thickness of cauldron bottoms 
the 
> > year before.  Yes, Percy!...
> 
> > I mean, remember how driven Percy is for success.  He is 
desperate 
> > and more than willing to ride on the coat tails of a "rising 
star" 
> > like Umbridge...
> 
> > I really am rather 
> > hoping for a bunch of posts explaining why it couldn't possibly 
have 
> > been Percy.
> 
> Now me:
> 
> I'll try a defense of Percy.  Yes, he seems like an ideal 
candidate:
> access to the Order through his family, access to Umbridge through 
his
> job, cauldron expertise.  Not to mention his obviously
> anti-Harry/Dumbledore/Order actions throughout OoP.  But I'm 
looking
> more at what he didn't do.  He knows perfectly well that his father
> and mother are working with Dumbledore.  Throughout OoP, Fudge was
> desperate to track down Dumbledore's forces, and in all likelihood
> would have rewarded Percy highly for that information.
> 
> However, Percy remained silent.  He didn't sell out his family.  He
> didn't endanger the Order.  He passed up certain praise from the
> Minister of Magic himself.  Which tells me that Percy, despite
> everything he has said and done, still has morals.  Based on this, 
I
> think, given the choice of advancement at the possible cost of 
Harry's
> life and the Order's safety, Percy would say no.
> 
> -Corinth





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