Fawkes and the Order

[siriuskase]

No: HPFGUIDX 74187

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Risti" <pretty_feet51 at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Doriane" <delwynmarch at y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Just a detail. The Order is called the Order of the Phoenix, not 
> the 
> > Order of DD, or DD's Army. Does that mean that Fawkes is somehow 
> the 
> > big chief of the Order and DD would only be some kind of 
> assistant ? 
> > Just wondering...
> > 
> > Del
> 
> This is actually something I've given alot of thought to both pre-
> OotP and post-OotP.  Pre-OotP, I was convinced that the significance 
> of the Pheonix in the name lies in one of it's traits:loyalty.  
> Pheonix's are very loyal birds, or so we're told in CoS. 
> (Incidently, that leads me to one of my other favorite topics, how 
> Voldemort deals with a wand core that is loyal to Dumbledore).  Look 
> in CoS the way Fawkes came to help Harry, because he was loyal to 
> Dumbledore.  Originally, my OotP prediction was that the Order was 
> going to be something similiar to what DA ended up being(only with 
> Dumbledore being kicked out first, and the group formed in loyalty 
> after) and that Harry was going to name it, remembering back to 
> CoS.  However, since that didn't happen, I'm still working on 
> reconciling the theory of loyalty to the naming of the group.
> 
> ~Risti

another important characteristic of the Phoenix is that he lives
forever.  Dumbledore may be old, but he's human.  since the fight with
evil will continue forever, the order must be built around the Phoenix
who will continue on even after the current order is  gone.

Madeye says that the current group is the second OotP, and pulls out a
photo of the first group.  Does that mean there are no earlier groups
of the OotP?  Or are these the only groups that he knows about?

SK