OOP: Sirius, Penseive and Snape ( Was" A few Points on Snape and other things")

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No: HPFGUIDX 62425


Brooke wrote:
> >  Remember Sirius (or was it James) said "it's more that he just exists" in the pensieve?  Maybe there's a lot more to that statement than just James & Sirius being heartless... > > 

SophineClaire:
> I think it's just a heartless statement. hasn't the prevailing subtle 
> (or not so subtle) message in the novels been that it doesn't matter 
> how far you can trace your bloodlines, but who you are as a person?
> Granted, neither Severus or Sirius are innocent, but to target 
> someone just because he is breathing is horrid. You know, neither 
> James or Sirius or Remus, either then or during the talk in the 
> fireplace, ever said "hey, you should have heard/seen said/did 
> yesterday" nor did they counter "But his slimey slytherin friends 
> always got us back".
> 
> In POA, I was willing to give Sirius the benefit of doubt. Maybe 
> Severus and his cronies ( because note, Sirius made sure that it 
> sounded like Severus' gang had more people than the Marauders mere 4) 
> did have a running rivalry with MWPP. But now that opinion, while 
> still open, seems less likely. I see Sirius' issue maybe that Severus 
> is seemingly the embodiment of everything that Sirius has come to 
> dispise in the WW and since he cannot physically do anything to his 
> family, he takes it out on the future Potions Master.
> 
>  Unfortunately, Sirius is one hell of a hypocrite. Remember in GOF 
> and what he says about watching how a man treats his inferiors ( and 
> I'll get to Kreacher in another post, it's just that I think he 
> should have been gotten rid of before the ORDER moved in) as much as 
> Severus may actually be his equal, Sirius considered Severus to be 
> his inferior and ensured that he was treated as if he was worthless.
> We've seen this in POA when Severus was unconcious and in OotP.
> 
> I want to add to the whole slew of Pensieve theories that are out 
> there. Now, I think that the memories added are the honest to 
> goodness truth as to what happened. It takes in both the subconcious 
> and unconcious details, but I also think that the magical environment 
> has such an effect on the body that everything within a certain 
> radius of the person is also recorded, though not with the knowledge 
> of the person. While you have to follow the person who's memories you 
> are in, you can probably stay within the edge of the radius and see 
> what's going on around the person. The only thing that is subjective 
> are the memories that people choose to place in the Pensieve.
 

In complete defence of Snape, I agree with your post completely.
Targeting someone simply becuase they were born, is the most
disgusting bullying that I can think of. And they were bullying him.
He was minding his own business, and they attacked and provoked him,
while he was outnumbered. I am absolutely disgusted. And now I love
Snape even more then before, becuase of this. None of his memories 
were remotely happy. Remember the memory of his father screaming at 
his mother? No wonder he hates Sirius so much, I do too! The man is 
a complete hypocrite, and very impulsive, which is not a good thing.  

I understand why Snape is favouring Draco now. I don't think that it
is only becuase Draco is Lucius's son, I think is trying to relive his
days at Hogwarts as a student through Draco, and he is letting Draco
do what he wanted to do to 'Potter' - that is, what James and Sirius
did to him...

Also, they were bullying him because of his physical appearance as
well. It's very shallow and arrogant behaviour. And I can't understand
why Harry can't seethis. He does a bit, but it still doesn't improve
his relationship with Snape at all.


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