James is alive theory (some OOP)

Michael Wong plooberman at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 26 03:51:49 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 64095

     Ok, for those of you who have read, the "Ultimate Unofficial 
Guide to the Mysterious of Harry Potter"  you will already be 
familiar with this theory, but I have book 5 evidence that further 
supports the theory.  If you haven't read that guide book, buy it 
now, it is the best, most thorough, and funniest summary and analysis 
i have encountered ever!  
     The theory or more appropriately the assertion is that the Remus 
J. Lupin we know is in fact James Potter's mind and sould trapped in 
Lupin's body.  Here's the book's explanation:

     In the legend of Romulus and REmus, Remus was killed by his 
brother (or his brother's (wormtail) followers (deatheaters).  The 
Remus J. Lupin we know is probably James Potter switched into Lupin's 
body with a Switching Spell. (was that Lily's work?)  Have you ever 
wonder why we always see random Switching Spells as well as socks, 
clocks, watches, wooly clothes, funny noses, long hair, long fingers, 
eyes, and other various references spontaneously placed all 
throughout the books?  They aren't random, but important septology 
clues that will be important in the last couple books.  
     J.K.R. makes it clear that there is something special about 
Lupin.  In interviews, she has answered that Remus is her favorite 
character and that is why book 3 is so important to her to write.  We 
ask ourselves, "why is Remus so important?  What makes J.K. like him 
so much, or better stated, value him so much?"  Does J.K. have a 
thing for kind, intelligent, animalistic men?  Maybe
certain things 
about Lupin tell us that there is more to Remus than meets the eye.

Book 1 evidence, "How did Dumbledore get James' Invisibility Cloak, 
and how did Hagrid get the key to the Potters' vault?"  Logic would 
tell us that, unless the Potters purposefully left those important 
possessions behind for safe keeping, we would expect them to keep 
those, especially the cloak for extra stealth.  

Book 3, unlike everyone else, Lupin never stared at Harry's scar or 
mentioned his eyes or resemblance to James. (ch 5)  Lupin simply 
addresses Harry by name as if he was already very familiar with him. 
(like on the train to Hogwarts)

Harry tells Lupin that when a Dementor gets near him, he hears hi mum 
being murdered by Voldemort.  On hearing this, Lupin had made "a 
sudden motion with his arm, as though to grip Harry's shoulder, but 
thought better of it." Ch 10.  Lupin may be relating Harry's emotion 
or his own, but he is trying to distance himself from Harry.  There 
is no reason why he should stop himself from just gripping Harry's 
arm if he were Lupin.  Something here is affecting him, too.

Trelawney said that Lupin "positively fled when I offered to crystal 
gaze for him –" ch 11
	He's obviously afraid of exposing something.  We might have 
thought he was just afraid that she might discover he's a werewolf; 
however, we learned that the whole staff already knew of that.  Why 
would Lupin flee, instead of politely declining.  He's hiding 
something.

When Harry tells Lupin he is hearing his mum's voice louder, Lupin 
loos "paler than usual."  Harry then tells Lupin how he hears his 
dad's voice for the first time trying to hold of Voldemort so his 
mother could escape.  "You heard james?" said Lupin in a strange 
voice." Cha 12. 
	Hearing about Lily didn't make him sad; it made him pale.  
Why would Lupin react oddly to Harry hearing James?  Because of the 
odd circumstances – he realized it wasn't James saying it.

Professor Lupin who was "both shaken and please, " comes over to 
congragulate Harry on his spectacular Patronus. (Ch 13).  Lupin is 
shaken from seeing what we later learn is James' own Patronus

Professor Lupin enters the room in a "shower of red sparks" ch 17 – A 
true Gryffindor, like Harry pulling out the Gryffidor sword and his 
first year visit to ollivanders.

"I certainly don't want Harry dead
" "An odd shiver passed over his 
face." (Ch17) – That's not just a teacher or a friend saying that.

Lupin: "now that we could all transform." Ch 18
   Why wouldn't he say, "Now that they could all transform"?

Lupin has "no hesitation" about what Harry's father would think. Ch 
18.  Why is he so sure about what Harry's father would Think?

     We know that J.K. likes to mess with the readers, by how she 
personally thinks of the story by using the dialogue of the 
characters, for example: Dumbledore's ingenuous mirror of erased 
trick.  "so ingenious, that I even surprised myself – 
Dumbledore/Rowling.  Also, in book 5, Phineas Black portrait, "I 
disagree with some of the things he says, but you got to admit 
Dumbledore's got style"  That's the author talking, too.  She loved 
writing about that whole dueling scene in the headmaster's office and 
she wanted you to know it.  So when Dumbledore mentions in book3 that 
all four map-makers did appear in some form on the Hogwarts grounds 
that night we are convinced that Harry's father was there, too.  He 
appeared as both the patronus and as a spirit in Remus' body.  J.K. 
was dropping a huge hint there, right under our nose – b/c we all 
thought that James appeared as the Prongs the Patronus, not stuck in 
Lupin's body.  Wow, she's really good.

Also, many early editions of GoF had a supposed mistake in the priori 
incantatem chapter, where it was originally written that James came 
out first before lily and said, "your mother is comming", but in 
later additions it was corrected to lily comming out and saying "your 
father is comming."   This is highly suspicious, because an error of 
that caliber should not be easily missed by JK herself and her 
editors.  You would think that while writing that if JK did indeed by 
mistake write James comming out before lily, that she would have 
caught herself when she wrote the line, "your mother is comming".  
But she didn't change it, we leads us to believe that it was 
purposefully done that way.  If we follow this logic, this allows a 
loophole.  The man in the form of james may really be lupin 
saying "your mother is comming",  since we have no proof that he is 
harry's father.  The readers thought this was a mistake, and if JK 
public acknowledges that it wasn't a mistake, then they could pick up 
on the fact that the man may not be Harry's father...a bit of a 
stretch, but if you think about it, the echos were fully aware of 
each other and their surroundings, therefore we can conclude that 
they communicated while in the wand and if they could interact with 
each other certainly it is possible they could switch orders.  Maybe 
not, since the priori incatatem affect is suppose to regurgitae the 
VICTIMS of volde's spells.  but that may be an unsolved mystery. 

also, i always wondered why Harry's killing curse never appeared 
before lily came out.  the P.I. spell is suppose to regergitate in 
reverse the most recent spells performed, keyword performed - as 
dumbledore described.  Dumbledore also said that the VICTIMS should 
appear as echos...i guess the spell has to be successful to beable to 
fall into the P.I. effect?? i duno, just a bunch of who ha here, 
anyone want to comment?

Book 5.  If you can recall the conversation about Remus failing to 
control James and Sirius form causing trouble, then think about the 
memory in Snape's pensieve, the one were Sirius and James go off to 
pick on Snape and Remus doesn't even bother to try stopping them.  
That totally conflicts with what Remus said before.  That's because 
it's really James who said that, but he doesn't know how Remus acted 
exactly and therefore made the mistake of contradictly the truth 
while joking around to make Harry feel better.  

The book says that James and Remus probably switch bodies because 
they had doubts about Sirius as the secret keeper and as an extra 
precaution decided to have Lily use a Switching Spell without anyone 
else knowing.  After the switch and the attack, Lily and Remus die, 
while James is alive hiding somewhere unknown.  In Harry's head, the 
voices never identified the man speaking as Harry's father or as 
simply James.  We assume its him, but there's purposefully no 
evidence there to suggest it.  J.K. can later spring this twist on us 
and not contradict herself.  She is so sly.  So James is stuck in 
werewolf form.
After reading book 5,  I have to question this theory, because it is 
revealed that Voldemort is only after Harry, because of the 
prophecy.  His parents are actively working against Voldemort, but 
have no real threat against him.  So if this switch theory is true, 
why did James need to switch?  He should have stayed to protect lily 
since it was Harry's life that would determine Voldemort success.  
Perhaps, since there are hints about Harry being a descendent of 
Godric Gryffindor, that there are powers that go with being a 
founder's heir that Voldemort wants to prevent also and not just the 
prophecy?  We have been led to believe that Voldemort is after all 
the Potters, but we know that we can never fully trust in what any 
character tells Harry besides what Dumbledore and usually Hermione 
say.  Or also when Ron is joking.  Did anyone catch the jokes about 
Cho exploding and Gryffindor's chances at winning the Quidditch cup 
being as good as Mr. Weasley elected Minister of Magic!!!!  Ooh, that 
would be so cool.  A lot of fanfiction have Mr. Weasley as the new 
Minister!

	Who thinks Neville's scene at St. Mungos is dodgy?  How did 
he miss that Devil's Snare plant?  He's the Herbology buff, after 
all.  And that granny of his is definitely suspicious, too.  I think 
she might have something to due with that plant, or it was that guy, 
with the funny ear thing, in front of the Weasley's who asked to 
visit bode.  I get the feeling from how Neville responds to her in 
the past as well as in that scene that Granny belittles him and 
prevents him from being himself.  We see that he is becoming a very 
capable wizard and has shed his shyness shell.  I was really 
impressed with his bravery in the Department of Mysteries fight.  
We'll definitely see him playing a more active role in the central 
plot later.  
	Back to the hospital; I got the feeling that he wasn't at all 
ashamed of his parents, but just reluctant to share his feelings 
about his parents especially granny always putting him down.  Who 
wears a great big vulture on their head and Slytherin colors?  She's 
dodgy.  What about Neville's notoriously horrible memory and 
clumsiness.  We've seen that before
Lockhart and Mr. Roberts the 
muggle at the Quidditch world cup.  All from memory charms.  Could it 
be that Neville's limitations are due to a memory charm, possible 
placed on him while his parents were tortured?  Why bother with a 
charm on a little kid?  Death eaters would just kill the kid and 
prevent loose ends, right?  So there had to be a reason if he was 
really charmed
maybe ole granny knows.  
	Neville seemed annoyed with granny at the hospital and didn't 
listen to her about the gum wrapper.  I think the gum wrapper is 
significant.  She keeps giving it to him for some reason, and we know 
J.K. is not generous with details for no good reason.  Could it be a 
clue to some mystery related to the memory charm? 

Most of these theories are from the guide book, some parts word for 
word.  I take very little credit.   Book 5 theories are mine
Well, that's all for now, please respond and discuss!!  Email: 
plooberman at hotmail.com








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